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Mnt Goat Saturday Update – “Going Ahead with “full” National Reconciliation”  Part 1 of 2

(Thank you George for sending this so Recaps can post it.)

UU6853 – “Going Ahead with “full” National Reconciliation ” by Mnt Goat

Guten Tag everyone,

I could write a book about this week’s events.

The information is pouring out of Iraq and it is very informative only many do not know the news and don’t really care to spread REAL news to you anyhow. All they look for is an ounce of unverified rumors to spread their hype. They are only worried about bank screen rates, talks in the mosques or planned celebrations in Baghdad.

Today I am going to talk mostly about the National Reconciliation since this is the basis and underlying foundation for just about every reform and effort being taken so far during Abadi’s administration.

But also we must not forget about the distractions of fighting of ISIS / DAASH and the economic crisis as these are obstacles to the needed reforms which are impediments causing delays and stalling. 

However, in the long run we may have to wait a bit longer but as time passes progress in being made in all directions.

Instead of discouragement we all should be very happy because time has passed and the situation has changed. Remember those somber Maliki days? We only think it should have RV’s already because we hear this over and over again on their daily dose of hype.

What I am going to show you today connects the events we are now witnessing and how they are lining up for the final product of the RV in the near future.

No! – The plane has not yet landed and the pilot is just wating to get out of  the cockpit…..lol….lol…(how foolish)

No! – The RV has not yet happened and we are not just waiting for an announcement…lol…lol…(how foolish).

Again today’s news is all good. I recommend you print it, sit back and relax, fluff up those pillows in your favorite chair. You might even want to get a nice hot cup of coffee or tea. This is going to be long read today.

Today’s News

Today is Saturday January 9th   2016 and yes we have ended the first week of the new year already and still no RV. 

Oh- but it was supposed to RV last Tues or Weds according to some rumored bank memo  in Canada…really? A memo that was never seen or verified, yet the rumor was spread anyhow. Really? This was actually said on one of these so called “intel” calls.

So now we are seeing a network of misinformation, rumors and rubbish coming out of Canada. BE AWARE!

You wouldn’t mind it so much and can ignore it, except these so called intel “gurus” get this information too and actually use it on their calls as intel. Really?

So on with today’s news.

Update: Needed Laws

Parliament has been on recess since Dec 16th. This week they told us that parliament will discuss and vote on many important laws in the coming session after the legislation recess ends on Jan 19th, including the General Amnesty law, the law on the Prohibition of the Baath Party and the Federal Court Act.

Also good news on corruption in that they told us they are asking for permission to interrogate a number of officials including defense minister Khaled al-Obeidi , transport minister Bayan Jabar and requesting the judiciary to lift immunity on these MPs. 

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PARLIAMENTARY LEGAL ANNOUNCE THE COMPLETION OF MOST OF THE LAWS ENTRUSTED TO THEM      

07:20:15 2016-01-07|(Voice of Iraq) –
Baghdad Legal Committee of Parliament announced the completion of most of the laws entrusted to it through the chapters legislatures past.

The committee member said Sadiq frankincense that “the Legal Committee was able to complete most of the important laws pertaining to the Iraqi street by putting touches on the laws that have not experienced a political consensus and bring in the views.

“He continued chewing gum that” the Commission is working on the completion of the Federal Court Act, the Justice and Accountability and the prohibition of the Baath Party and the law of oil and gas, what you need from a political consensus in the House of Representatives.

“It is said that the House of Representatives, was able to approve the Martyrs and the Law Foundation Law budget and a set of important laws.

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WOW! Iraq is really under pressure to complete all of these remaining important laws. You know these laws. These are all the ones I have been talking about so long. Oh- boy this is very good news and we all should be very excited. Why?

I can tell you that Amnesty is part of the National Reconciliation and without there can be no finalization on this process without Amnesty. Remember the National Reconciliation is really the renamed “Erbil” agreement of 2008-2009.

For those of you that are new to Mnt Goat news letters I will explain this again for you since I feel for you and once I too was new to this investment.

So the “Erbil” agreement provisions were rolled over and renamed  the “National Reconciliation” effort in 2014  and there are a couple provisions I now need to address to everyone and once again help you tie together all these needed laws together.

I am doing this so you can see the importance of them and how close we are to having a “full” reconciliation. 
First I must apologize since in a past news letter I stated this reconciliation was done and I could not be more wrong. This was another case of listening to someone who I trusted and thus “assumed” he knew what he was talking about. I was wrong and come to you today to set the record straight. I am not perfect and so I also make mistakes.

It has always been know there will be no financial sovereignty for Iraq (no RV) unless they implement the National Reconciliation. This is not up for any discussion and is one of the given facts we must accept and learn to live with. The sooner we accept it we can move on to now learning what it takes to get “full” reconciliation and then to see a possible timeline for it. But remember too this alone is alone in issues to resolve prior to an RV.

So if I was to group the issues of the National Reconciliation effort I would put them into three main areas of concern:

1)The government must “fully” implement the new Iraqi constitution (need the govt to be fully formed).

Why is this important to us?
Sometimes we forget that Iraq was a post war occupied country and with the help of the USA they wrote a new constitution to implement their newly found republic democracy.  This new constitution is no good just on paper. So unless it is implemented then how will the rest of the world know Iraq is serious about their democracy? This implementation is being used as the gauge by which the developed nations are observing Iraq .

This is important because this must include implementing Article 140, HCL and especially the Federation Council (renamed now to Federal Council). The constitution also specifies provisions of the Judicial branch and so we see serious reforms too needed in this area

This was all supposed to be accomplished by the end of the 1st Iraq Parliamentary session year ago. It is now the year 2016 and they are now entering the 3rd parliamentary session and yet they still have not yet implemented these agreements. This was supposed to be Maliki’s primary job in his last 4 year term. Yes – he had 4 years to do it and could not. We also can’t lose site of the fact that the new prime minister Abadi was also given the same mandate as Maliki in order to allow him to form his government and he too is now over a year in his office and still no “fully” formed government and completed National Reconciliation. So there is extreme pressure for him to act.

2) Part of the National Reconciliation also includes the General Amnesty law (letting  political prisoners out who were wrongfully accused of crimes without due process)   

In reality these were political prisoners who spoke out against the Maliki government and so they found a way to lock them up to silence them. This reconciliation process will release these prisoners and sort out the ones who should remain in jail (justifiably) and those who should be immediately released. There are  thousands of prisoners that fit into this category. To do this they will need a law and this is the Amnesty law.

Iraq just recently told us they fully plan to pass and implement this law in early February. This is a WOW news since we have been waiting for four years for this to be done. Will they really do it now? I believe they are now sincere at it this time.

3) Another part of the National Reconciliation is the “Decentralization” of the government. What does this mean? Decentralization the government is allowing the provinces self governing powers. Oh – but it is much more than that. It is an insurance policy against future corruption and dictatorship by the Baghdad government.

We have witnessed the implementation of this decentralization process over the last summer months (remember?). The first job of each of the new Abadi ministers was to supervise the rollover of the ministries to the provinces. Remember some were late and they had to play catchup.  This effort was concluded late but by mid October 2015 all but the National Guard part of it was completed. This law is still being held up for political reasons and the careful timing. But I assure you it too is coming soon.

For those that do not know, the National Guard law is the means to accomplish this effort and is very political and probably one of the most resisted and controversial of all the reform laws. Essentially it will take all private militias and outlaw them (this includes the occupying Iranian Kud forces). These militias will be given a chance to roll into a provincial Guard unit to be legal or be elliminated. So this process will identify who the real enemy is as they will use the rule “If you are not With Us you are Against Us” to sort them all out, then to fight those apposing the new law. 

Remember back to 2011-2014 whenever we heard about all the daily bombings in the streets or mosques in Iraq?  Many said there will never be peace in Iraq. I jumped on those who made these statements since they are very short sited. I then said man can accomplish anything  if only he puts his mind to it. Remember man is made in the likeness of God and God is good. Peace is ALWAYS an option and is the natural state of mankind not war. War is brought on by evil entities that thrive and survive by the misery of others and war certainly is miserly on the planet earth. 

Who do you think was instigating these daily bombings? Many of you thought these bombings to be random acts of madness and terrorism. Really?  Random – hell they were ! Just shows how much you really did not know about Iraq and the overall plans for the country. Do you think the citizens accept this violence everyday?  How would you like to see your children grow up and be threatened with this constant everyday violence? So the citizens know they desire peace and if there is a will there is a way.

These bombings were well thought our reprisals acted by the Maliki and his goons using their private militias. When the USA army left at the end of 2011 Maliki and his goons saw this as an opportunity to resurge the Saddam Hussein mentality and try to take of the country. They instigated this terror (bombings and killings) anytime they did not get their way politically. They did this  to show parliament and the people who was really in charge. So do you see how this is all so interconnected with getting rid of the private armies and how this change can affect the political side too.

Now can you see that these men were the perpetrators of terrorism in their own country?  These were acts of treason. These bombing didn’t just happen as they were well thought out by the highest level leaders of Iraq perpetrated on the people and any political opponents. This is why you can’t have private armies / militias running around self subservient to politicians. So part of the Reconciliation effort is to clean up all these private militias and you can now see why this is important. 

They already passed the Parties law and this law makes it illegal to affiliate with any militia or terrorist group if you are in a political party. Since politicians are associated with a party they too can not be affiliated with these organizations. Not only can’t they then hold a political office, they can be convicted of  terrorism since it is also a provision in the new tTerrorism law. Gottem coming and gottem going…lol…You must be totally impartial to be a politician once all these laws are completed. So as long as they still exist there can be no reconciliation. No Reconciliation -No RV !  Get it ?

So you see how delicate,  interwoven and maybe even use the word complicated to describe it all. It is not all that simple to just RV when you want to RV. There is a lot going on yet to resolve and fix.

In my last news letter (LINK) I talked about many of these needed laws and presented timelines being given to us by the government of Iraq. So today and going forward I will continue to give you updates on these timelines.

I suspect these timelines will be adjusted as time goes on and we need to track them. Once we see progress in these needed  laws, progress with ISIS and DAASH in Mosul then we will see the Reconciliation being molded to conclusion like a ball of clay being molded by its potter. As we move more into January I have no doubt the news about currency reform will once again heat up as it will be then time for the CBI to address it and begin the process to delete the zeros again. 

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JUDICIAL AUTHORITY ISSUED AN EXPLANATION FOR THE GENERAL AMNESTY LAW      

Iraqi security guards outside the main door of the Central Prison Baghdad – 

Twilight News / Federal Authority confirmed that it is not the role of the general amnesty the controversial law, to Avnh that the government is one of the submitted a draft law to parliament.

The judge said Abdul Sattar Bayrakdar spokesman for the judiciary in an interview with Lord of Twilight News, “The Council of Ministers is of the submission of the draft general amnesty law.”

Bayraktar said that “the project and according to our information exists in the House of Representatives responsible for the approval,” adding that “the power Federal Judicial no role in the enactment of the law.
“He added that” the role of the Supreme Judicial Council was confined to form a committee made observations about the law. “

And who is due to the Iraqi parliament voted on the amnesty law next Tuesday, after the amendments and postponing lasted for more than a parliamentary session.

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PARLIAMENTARY LEGAL: AMNESTY WILL BE LAUNCHED AT THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY AND THE FEDERAL COURT IS DISABLED BECAUSE OF KURDS

12/30/2015
   
Tomorrow Press / Baghdad: announced the Legal Committee in the House of Representatives by a sound Shawki, on Wednesday, said the general amnesty law completed all his readings and discussions and vote by the parliament at the beginning of next February, while pointed out that disabled the Federal Court Act for the Kurdistan Alliance. He said Shawki’s “

Tomorrow’s Press,” “THE AMNESTY LAW HAS COMPLETED ALL HIS READINGS AND DEBATES AS WELL, AND WE ARE ONLY WAITING FOR THE VIEWS OF THE POLITICAL BLOCS ON THE PROVISIONS OF THE AMNESTY UNTIL THE LEGAL COMMITTEE BE ASSEMBLED AND THEN RE-DRAFTING OF THE LAW AND VOTE FOR IT,” adding that “the issue of the resolution of the amnesty law would be at the beginning February next. “He continued,”

THE FEDERAL COURT ACT ALSO COMPLETED OUR READINGS OF LAW AND DEBATES AND VIEWS ON IT, AND REMAINED ONE ISSUE PENDING A COURT MEETING AND VOTE IN THE COURT, “noting that” the majority opinion says that the court meeting is two thirds and vote on decisions also the consensus of the two-thirds , but contrary to the Kurdish side view and wants the court meeting also unanimously and unanimous vote.

 “He said Shawki that” blocs objected to the opinion of the Kurds and promised to disable the role of the Court, Aftrhawwa opinion, another to be the voice of the President of the Court and his deputy within two-thirds, because one of the Vice-President will be Kurdish ” . He pointed out that “their opinion this also he did not find acceptable, but that it is still in dispute, but during the next legislative term will be to resolve all differences on the law,” likely that “during which the vote on the laws amnesty and the Court.”

He continued by legal Allhnh that “THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE GUARD LAW, BUT IT’S MORE COMPLICATED, AND REQUIRE A LARGE POLITICAL CONSENSUS.”

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Here is the article earlier from in the week.

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LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE: 3 LAWS READY TO VOTE IN THE NEW LEGISLATIVE TERM, INCLUDING THE AMNESTY LAW

 12/29/2015

Parliamentary Legal Committee announced that the new legislative term will vote on three important laws in the forefront of a project of the Federal Court Act.

A member of the Committee to Morshedi: “There is a set of laws has first and second reading and completed discussions on them between the blocs and parliamentary committees and you just need to vote in agreement with the leaders of the blocks.”

“The ready-made laws of the vote is the Federal Court and the Federal Service and amnesty, as well as a draft e-Crime Bill and the Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Law.”

He pointed out, “it was narrowing differences in the Federal Court Act except for paragraph 12 of the draft law concerning the quorum convene and vote on decisions of the Court.”

“The general amnesty law is still under discussion for the study of the compatibility of the draft law with constitutional provisions and then introduced to a vote,” noting that “the parliamentary Commission included a proposal for the inclusion of liquor within the project Drug and Psychotropic Substances Act, which is currently prepared with the Committee on Health and Environment in Parliament.”

Morshedi pointed out that “the inclusion of liquor that the draft law came as psychotropic substances according to the opinion of the Committee on Health and the Environment of the proposal adopted by a number of deputies,” pointing out that “the House vote to adopt that view will make the liquor is prohibited by law.”

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Next let us talk about the Customs and Tariffs law.

Link to PART 2

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Finance: a project to reconsider the price of the dollar exchange under thousand dinars

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Millionday Friday Night News 1-8-16

Millionday Friday Night News 1/8/16
Welcome to dinarupdates.com for News Time with Millionday!!
 
Millionday: FIRST LET ME SAY THAT CBI HAS CALLED ON ALL BANKS TO TAKE OVER UNDER INTERNATIONAL COMPLIANCE RULES AND REGULATIONS — 

THIS IS ACCOUNTING STANDARDS AND ALL THAT GOES ALONG WITH GLOBAL INTERNATIONAL BANKING
 
Millionday: THERE HAVE BEEN MANY RELEASES OF HUGE HUGE REPORTS GIVEN BY GOVERNMENT AND CBI — THEY ARE PDF FORM AND OBVIOUSLY ARE ABOUT THE ADVANCMENT OF IRAQ
 
Millionday: CBI ORDERS ARE TO BEGIN AS OF JANUARY 1ST THIS YEAR — SO FISCAL YEAR
 
Millionday: VERY EXCITING OF COURSE
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Millionday: NOTE – THIS IS OBVIOUSLY APPROVED BY CBI DUE TO BUDGET
 
Millionday: Confirmed a member of the economic and investment commission parliamentary Najiba Najib, on Thursday, that the granting of loans to farmers most prominent solutions for the advancement of agricultural reality in the country and bridging the fiscal deficit.
 
She said Najib’s / scales News /, that “the central government find other resources is dependence on oil, especially after the decline in oil prices,” indicating that “activation of the agricultural sector is one of the most important solutions to bridge the fiscal deficit budget of the country.”
 
Millionday: NOTE — THE ACTIVATION OF AGRICULTURE REQUIRES MONEY
Millionday: NOTE — WE LIKE THE REALITY OF THE AGRICULTURE —
 
Millionday: She said a member of the economic and investment commission in Parliament, said that “the solutions that the government followed to advance in the reality of agriculture is to grant loans to peasants,” revealing at the same time that “there is a lot of land governed by laws such as the Revolutionary Command Council resolution this hinders the farmer work in farmland “.

This “spokesman of the Ministry of Agriculture Ali Abd al-Rahman’s / scales News /, earlier, that the Iraqi producer of fertilizer limited Aoumadom which called on the government to import adequate quantities to meet the needs of peasants lack”
 
Millionday: SO THE IDEA IS TO START THE FARMING SECTOR — AGRICULTURE
 
BookumDano: Farming is good
 
jtank: going to take time
 
Millionday: THE FUNDING WILL BE THE FIRST STEP
 
Millionday: I AGREE BOOKUM — PUTS THE WORKING MAN BACK ON TRACK
 
Millionday: NOTE — THIS SHOWS HOW FAST CHANGES WILL OCCUR AFTER BUDGET IS PRINTED
 
Millionday: PRESIDENT SIGNED FIRST BEFORE PRINTING — MEDIA AND ALL OF US WERE BACKWARDS ON THAT
 
Millionday: Parliamentary Finance: Finance ministries will receive their allocations immediately after the publication of the budget in the Official Gazette
 
Finance Committee announced in the House of Representatives, on Wednesday, that the ministries will receive their funds immediately after the publication of the general budget in the official Iraqi newspaper facts, pointing out that that of the executive branch functions.
 
Millionday: NOTE — PAY WILL GO OUT RIGHT AWAY AFTER PRINTING OF BUDGET
 
Millionday: He said committee member Ahmed Sarhan told / information /, “The ministries and state institutions will receive their budget and financial allocations in the general budget for 2016 after publication in the Official Gazette.”

Ahmed said, “The House of Representatives cleared the responsibility of the budget law, and the rest of the proceedings related to the government and the Council of Ministers that they should pursue it.”
 
Millionday: NOTE — ALONG WITH MINISTRIES — STATE INSTITUTIONS WILL GET FUNDS — VERY EXCITING — WHOOOPOW
 
Pablo: When is the printing supposed to be?
 
Millionday: IT DOESNT SAY WHEN THE PRINTING WILL BE
 
Millionday: IM LOOKING FOR INFO THAT MATTERS TO US — BRB
 
Millionday: LET ME ALSO SAY THAT THE NEWS WITH MALIKI IN IT IS SILLY — DONT WORRY ABOUT IT OR PAY ANY ATTENTION TO IT AT THIS POINT — IT MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE
 
divgreen: HAS ANYONE SEEN OR READ ANYTHING NEW ON THE DONG , IN THE LAST 2 DAYS ?
 
Millionday: NO NOTHING ON DONG HUN
 
Millionday: THIS IS BANKING — VERY IMPORTANT — READ EVERY WORD
 
Millionday: Council of Representatives, Dr. Mahdi Al-Hafiz to look for effective solutions to the reality of the banking sector, especially private banks in Iraq because the economic development of Aandzha but advanced banking system ..
 
This came during a seminar hosted by the “Institute of progress development policies “to discuss the relationship between private banks and the Central Bank of Iraq and participated in the symposium elite financiers, economists and representatives of private banks experts. He said Hafiz censorship, which is supposed central bank do still weak and confused to great limits
 
Millionday: NOTE — BECAUSE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
 
Millionday: NOTE — THIS IS A SEMINAR ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD AS ONE IN ALL ECONOMIC ENTITIES
 
Millionday: NOTE – THIS IS HUGE AND I AM NOT BRINGING PAST HISTORY IF I CAN HELP IT
 
Millionday: He pointed out that the United Nations has recently introduced a circuit called the Union for the integrity or the fight against corruption .. and corruption here means the agent betrayal the Thoroughbred .. The government agent and the people Thoroughbred .. and there is a new theory that the Iraqi the term (I Halih)
 
This principle is the basis of corruption, and there are 80 international initiative to combat corruption, including not to deal with bribery issue is not cursing the government but is required from citizens not to pay a bribe to the employee or borrowing Bank and Ivy loan .. market is homogeneous to that Dr. occur appearance of Mohammed Saleh financial advisor to the prime minister ..
 
Indicating that the banking market is not homogenous, there are attracting clear of capital and deposits by government banks, which account for 90 per cent and 10 per cent for private banks and there variation in the capital

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Millionday: NOTE — THE UN FORMED A UNION TO MINIMIZE CORRUPTION
 
Millionday: NOTE — AS WE SEE HERE — THEY ARE WORKING ON STABILITY IN THE BANKING — ONVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT NEW —

THEY HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS — SO NOW TO MINIMIZE CORRUPTION AND WITH THE BUDGET COMING — FORMATION OF GROUPS IS TAKING PLACE
 
Millionday: He spoke in favor of all auction file currency returned him an important and necessary, but can you take the creation of a bank to the private sector be Manmamh the opening credits of the centrality and are gradually shift to cover imports. the role of banks in the development and in the framework of the discussions that took place symposium
 
Mr. Tariq secretary private banks Association talked about the results of the banking conference organized by the Association recently indicating that the conference recommended strengthening and developing cooperation with the Central Bank of Iraq and the formation of a joint committee of the Central Bank
 
and Ministry of Finance and the Association of Banks and members of the economic and financial for the development of the banking reality and strengthen cooperation with government agencies to support private banks as well as carry out an awareness campaign about the role of banks in the development and
 
Millionday: NOTE — THIS IS TALKING ABOUT TOTAL ECONOMIC COOPERATION NATIONALLY

 
Millionday: NOTE — READ THE FIRST SENTENCE TWICE
 
Millionday: He called for the preparation of a new economic approach government appointed in addressing the reality of large and disastrous problem banks in the light of the financial crisis faced by Iraq. Economic researcher and media,
 
Dr. Hamid Ulkipaia to talk about the privatization of State-owned banks in light of the lack of trust by the Iraqi citizen banks civil .. Indicating that weakness trust this drive customers to the trend towards government banks because people know that the government will not go bankrupt,
 
it has a viable and therefore, the privatization of the bank Rafidain and Rasheed means to inflict these banks that enjoy the confidence of people in banks civil lost its confidence.
 
People put their deposits in these banks and then not getting it .. pointing that privatization may be appropriate but then provide conditions appropriate and the environment that have not yet ripened banking sector need to organize.
 
Millionday: NOTE — OBVIOUSLY THE CONFERENCE IS ALL ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN BANKING AND THROUGHOUT
 
Millionday: THE REST IS BORING
Millionday: AND I AM SICK AND DONT FEEL LIKE GOING THROUGH IT
 
Millionday: THE POINT IS THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON DEVELOPING ALL OF THE ECONOMIC ENTITIES
 
Millionday: NOT A LOT OF NEWS JUST HUGE ORDERS TO GO TO INTERNATIONAL COMPLIANCE AND THE WORK BEING DONE ON DEVELOPMENT — SO AS WE KNOW — WE CALL THAT WAITING
 
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A Leader in the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan confirms the near of signing a political agreement between his party and the MC

Sulaymaniyah / National Iraqi News Agency / nina / A leader in the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan said that there is a great convergence between the Pateriotic Union of Kurdistan and the Movement for Change and meetings between them are continuing to sign a political agreement between the two sides.

The governor is capable fairway Meh committee Member of the political bureau of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) Hakim Qader Hama Jan said in a press statement that the bilateral meetings between the Union and the MC are still ongoing to bring the views in preparation for the signing of a political agreement between the two sides,” explaining that there is a great convergence between the change and the Patriotic Union, and we arrived a political agreement will not be at the expense of other political parties.

In regard t0 oil and natural resources file, Hakim Qader said that the Regional government must provide clear information about the sale and the quantities of oil export abroad, noting that in spite of the differences between Baghdad and Erbil on the oil file, there are questions within the region about the lack of transparency in this file .

LINK

Who Is Iraq’s ‘Person of the Year’ For 2015?

Which Iraqi had the most impact on their nation over the past 12 months? NIQASH editors and correspondents picked a few candidates – some obvious, some interesting – and invite readers to do the same.

Who was the most influential person in Iraq in 2015, the individual who had the most impact on the country? NIQASH editors and correspondents came together to discuss who might have been Iraq’s Person of the Year for 2015.

And there were several obvious picks. For example, senior Shiite Muslim cleric, Ali al-Sistani, who had an unusually strong influence on Iraqi politics and security in 2015. And then in the semi-autonomous northern region of Iraqi Kurdistan, there’s obviously Massoud Barzani, still the acting President there, whose insistence on keeping his current job has all but stalled the Kurds’ nascent democratic process.

If you were contemplating negative impacts, there’s Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, leader of the extremist group known as the Islamic State; the group caused a security crisis in Iraq, starting mid-2014, that’s resulted in huge security upheavals in practice, and a deepening of existing social rifts in theory.

Also interesting is that, despite his best efforts, none of the website’s Iraqi editors or journalists picked the country’s current Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi. Perhaps because he has been forced to negotiate a delicate road around and between all the more virulent forces in the country, which has effectively neutralised him.

Following below are NIQASH’s picks for Iraqi Person of the Year 2015. Not everyone will agree with all of them – or possibly, any of them – and many readers in Iraq will doubtless be divided according to their own allegiances. NIQASH welcomes readers’ opinions on this subject; have your say on our Facebook page by clicking HERE.

Maysoon al-Damluji

An MP for the Iraqiya bloc as well as the head of Iraq’s Parliamentary Committee on Media and Culture. As the head of this committee, al-Damluji has strongly supported civil society organisations and given them a role in formulating amendments to laws that her parliamentary committee supervises. In formulating these laws, she organised a lot of meetings with civil society organisations and took into account their suggestions before the laws were read in Parliament.

LINK

Wealthwatch  Friday Evening OOTW Chat 1-8-16   Part 2 of 2

WEALTHWATCH  1-8-16
Post From Wealthwatch.world  Chat Room
News With Links & Discussion
 
Wealthwatch  Friday Evening OOTW Chat 1-8-16   Part 2 of 2
 
OOTW: Twenty-four karat gold is pure Au, and is seen only in bullion bars. Gold is an extremely soft metal which loses particles if used or handled a lot, so other metals have to be added to strengthen it before it can be made into jewelry or coins (because you don’t really want precious gold particles being lost by rubbing off on your skin and clothes).
 
You often see Olympic athletes bite their gold medals – that’s because traditionally, if you could make teeth marks on the soft metal you knew it was genuine and very close to pure, even though modern Olympic medals are not solid gold. Usually you just need to add a little silver or copper to harden and toughen it.
 
OOTW: OK GOOD TO KNOW AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
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rocknrollbus: From the article……….”aimed at diversifying public savings and to ensure he receives 24 karat gold”
 
OOTW: SO THEN, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU ARE SAYING CHATTELS VS MR WHITE?
OOTW: ‹@rocknrollbus› THANKS
OOTW: WHY THE MARKED DIFFERENCE?
 
chattels: ‹@OOTW› Mr. White is equating 100 dinar to 15 grams of gold. He ignores the 720,000 dinar number.
 
MichelleL: 24k gold as in coins are actually .999
MichelleL: for what its worth – hello friends :)
 
OOTW: THANKS MICHELLE
 
chattels: He uses the coin denomination.
 
OOTW: WELL THAT’S A BIG DIFFERENCE CHATTELS
 
MichelleL: so he’s saying 100 dinar are worth like 600 bucks? nice to be delusional
 
OOTW: ‹@MichelleL› PFSSSSSSSSSSSSSS LOL
 
MichelleL: 30 grams in a troy ounce lol
 
chattels: 31.1035 to be exact
OOTW: I’M GLAD I HAVE U  Y’ALL   LOL

MichelleL: howevva, OOTW, could be a currency amount on the coin, i.e. my gold one ounce chinese pandas are marked 50 yuan
MichelleL: actual value now around 1200-1300
 
OOTW: AHH OK ……………..   OOTW: AH I SEE
 
chattels: ‹@MichelleL› correct
 
MichelleL: like a silver dollar would actually be worth more like 20 dollars right now
 
rocknrollbus: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gol…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_bar
  
MichelleL: gotcha chattels :)
 
MichelleL: i wish I could rescue our old silver dollars, the ocean eroded them badly after the last hurricane
 
OOTW: BUT THE GOVT SEEMS TO BE STATING FOR PEOPLE TO PURCHASE THESE COINS AS A HEDGE AGAINST THEIR OWN CURRENCY’S POTENTIAL VOLATILITY
 
OOTW: OH NO SORRY
 
MichelleL: OOTW I imagine they want the populace to pay the gold value in current dinars to get more currency off the street?
 
rocknrollbus: Or………..could they be trying to draw the Dinar off the streets?
 
OOTW: YES THAT I AGREE WITH AND STATED AS SUCH ABOVE
 
MichelleL: 750k dinars for a 100d gold coin, works for them, but in cash in value they get ripped
 
MichelleL: if it does rv that is, anytime soon
 
OOTW: YEAH
 
MichelleL: so just like our government, the Iraqi govt wants to rip its people off 😉 nice start to the weekend
 
OOTW: LOL    OOTW: AH BOY
 
chattels: Is 2016 the Kurdish goodbye to Iraq? wealthwatch.world/showthr…
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3667
 
chattels: The Kurdistan Region gained autonomy in 1991 and was officially recognized in the Iraqi constitution of 2005, with a 17% share of Iraq’s national budget, which Baghdad has withheld for nearly two years and put the region in severe financial crisis.
 
chattels: “Our economic situation gets worse and worse day by day, and one day we will all go bankrupt. All the blame must be put on Baghdad because they cut off our national budget… Independence will solve all the trouble we have been facing,”
 
MichelleL: ‹@chattels› hope we get our rv before the kurds hit the road – please??? nice as a lottery win
 
chattels: In the summer of 2014 when ISIS took over large swathes of Iraq’s territory, Barzani asked the Kurdish parliament to set a date for an independence referendum, saying that the Kurds no longer wanted to be part of Iraq’s troubles.
 
chattels: Out of the Middle East turmoil and shifting borders may eventually come the fulfilment of a Kurdish dream that was shattered a century ago.
 
chattels: Kurdistan Barzani talks ISIS war, referendum with foreign diplomats By Rudaw rudaw.net/english/kurdist…    http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/070120161
 
 rocknrollbus: ‹@chattels› Will Syrian, Turkish Kurds join the Iraqi Kurds?
 
OOTW: ty chattels
 
chattels: “Holding a referendum and implementing the outcome of that referendum are two different things. A referendum to give the Kurdish people a choice is a natural right. We will discuss with the Baghdad authorities the future of our relations and settle some issues democratically through dialogue,” he explained.
 
chattels: Not likely initially.
 
chattels: But a ” greater Kurdistan ” to include parts of Syria, Turkey AND Iran is the Kurdish dream.
 
rocknrollbus: Then arises the question…………..if they do, what will happen to their currency?
 
chattels: More likely a confereration. There are real differences politically between even northern Kurdistan and southern Kurdistan ( Erbil – Sulimanijah )
 
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› Some confederated states share a ” national currency “
 
ladyfox: GE all? what currency do or will the Kurds use?
 
chattels: There are already ” branches ” to the CBI
 
chattels: ‹@ladyfox› Currently the IQD, but what the future holds ………………. ?
 
OOTW: THANKS CHATTELS…I’M GOING TO EXERCISE WITH MY GRANDDAUGHTERS NOW….MY ROOMMATE DOWNSTAIRS WILL BE SO HAPPY
 
chattels: confederation *
 
OOTW: 😀
 
chattels: ‹@OOTW› laterz
 
OOTW: LATERZ AND TYVM
 
MichelleL: bye bye OOTW~ cya soon and happy weekend :)
 
chattels: Kirk H. Sowell ‏@UticaRisk 2h2 hours ago The two most useful reflections I’ve seen on Ramadi this week: www.nytimes.com/2016/01/0… … @NYTBen talisman-gate.com/2015/12… … @ImaraWaTijara

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/08/world/middleeast/isis-ramadi-iraq-retaking.html

http://talisman-gate.com/2015/12/30/downsizing-the-popular-mobilization-units/
 
MichelleL: in fact, soon I leave to cook – I have illusions of reheating like a cordon bleu chef 😉
 
rocknrollbus: ‹@OOTW› Thanx
 
ladyfox: @ chattels could this be a backdoor to exchanging our dinar? If the Kurds push it forth?
 
OOTW: THANKS RANDRBUS
ladyfox: @ have a good one OOTW
OOTW: THANKS LADYFOX YOU TOO
 
chattels: ‹@ladyfox› too heady a question for this poor intellect
ladyfox: @ CHATTELS  😀
OOTW: ‹@MichelleL› HAPPY WEEKEND
 
rocknrollbus: ‹@chattels› Speaking of Au for gold………………www.npr.org/sections/thet…
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/08/462368064/put-lemmy-on-the-periodic-table-more-than-100-000-sign-petition
 
chattels: Parliamentary Legal announce the completion of most of the laws entrusted to it 2016-01-07 07:20:15 | (Voice of Iraq) – Baghdad Parliamentary Legal Committee announced the completion of most of the laws entrusted to it during the last two chapters legislatures.
 
The committee member said Sadiq frankincense that “the Legal Committee was able to complete most of the important laws pertaining to the Iraqi street by putting touches on the laws that have not experienced a political consensus and bring in the views.”
 
He continued chewing gum that “the Commission is working on the completion of the Federal Court Act, the Justice and Accountability and the prohibition of the Baath Party and the law of oil and gas, what you need from a political consensus in the House of Representatives.”
 
 It is said that the House of Representatives, was able to pass a law Martyrs Foundation and the law of the budget and a series of important laws. www.sotaliraq.com/newsite…
http://www.sotaliraq.com/newsitem.php?id=313771#axzz3wBfTZJzC
 
chattels: ” frankincense ” is SLC / National Alliance / Shia and they typically make claims of great progress with legislation that do not have real consensus.
 
rocknrollbus: Was Electrodes, Watermelon, Coffee and Kareem there too?? (sorry, I get a chuckle out of their nick names)
 
chattels: a/k/a ” chewing gum ” :)
chattels: translation snafus
rocknrollbus: The appearance of………
 
chattels: Regarding the Iraqi gold coins, I do see how the issuance of gold coins could reduce the paper money supply in Iraq. But why would such action be limited to a commemorative edition ?
 
rocknrollbus: And, why the 69th? year of the CBI?
rocknrollbus: ‹@chattels› Did you read the Lemmy article?
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› Lemmy article ?
rocknrollbus: Speaking of Au for gold………………www.npr.org/sections/thet….
http://www.npr.org/sections/thet..     Page not found
 
rocknrollbus: Crap….go back up to the other 1…^
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› ” 84th anniversary of the founding of the Iraqi monetary authority in 1930 “

chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr… Post # 5
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3639
 
rocknrollbus: oh….ok. thot I’d read 69th
rocknrollbus: Ahhhhh
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› Read about ” Lemmy “

rocknrollbus: www.npr.org/sections/thet…
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/08/462368064/put-lemmy-on-the-periodic-table-more-than-100-000-sign-petition
 
jomomma133: Hi Everyone I am so new to all of this am learning fast, for a newbie. I also enjoy listening to the show when I am not working. My question is where in the US are we able to purchase these gold coins?

Stash: Nowhere that i know of
jomomma133: I didn’t think so
jomomma133: Long ago our Banks here in the US stopped sales of gold and silver. :-(
Stash: Yes
 
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› ” on the occasion of sixty-eighth anniversary of the founding of the Central Bank of Iraq in 1947 “. wealthwatch.world/showthr… Post # 3
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3639
 
ladyfox: @ jomomma133 what did they do with the rest that was not sold to citizen?
jomomma133: Everyone have an excellent weekend!! Positive energy, thoughts and prayers be with each of you
 
chattels: ‹@jomomma133› ” The bank said it “received the first category of these coins that are weighing 15 grams,” noting that he “will be put up for sale through banks, which will be determined by them.” wealthwatch.world/showthr…. Post # 3
http://wealthwatch.world/showthr..
 
chattels: ‹@jomomma133› Presumably banks in Iraq.                                                       

 jomomma133: Ladyfox I am clueless. But with everything else your guess is as good as mine
jomomma133: Yes Chattels Thank You I saw that as well. I am almost positive they will be purchased in Iraq for the time being.

jomomma133: So long everyone. Thank You for chatting with me.
Doug_W: ‹@jomomma133› bye
ladyfox: I would love one of those coins. keep sake
 
rocknrollbus: ‹@chattels› How’s your weather for the weekend?
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› 70 degrees and overcast tomorrow I think
rocknrollbus: I hate you………bwaaaaahahahahaha………….we’ll be getting a cold snap here in KC…….7-8 degrees!!
rocknrollbus: U a Panther fan?
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› No sir. Redskins.
 
chattels: Ebadi / Jubouri stresses of the complete liberalization of Anbar, before setting off to battle Mosul wealthwatch.world/showthr…
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3668
 
rocknrollbus: Say whaaaa?
 
chattels: Going on six weeks in Ramadi and still not done. Fallujah and the Anbar desert ( Syrian border ) remain for complete liberation of Anbar province.
 
rocknrollbus: Had read they had a network of tunnels throughout the city.
 
chattels: Sharqat and Hawiija ” on the road to ” Mosul.
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› Hiding from the drones.
rocknrollbus: Purdy good read…….NY Times
 
chattels: Kirk H. Sowell ‏@UticaRisk 4h4 hours ago The two most useful reflections I’ve seen on Ramadi this week: www.nytimes.com/2016/01/0… … @NYTBen talisman-gate.com/2015/12… … @ImaraWaTijara

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/08/world/middleeast/isis-ramadi-iraq-retaking.html

http://talisman-gate.com/2015/12/30/downsizing-the-popular-mobilization-units/
 
rocknrollbus: ‹@chattels› Gotta bounce………….s’possed to take the grand-daughters for ice cream tonite. Thanx again for your knowledge!!!    rocknrollbus: Go Chiefs!!!
chattels: ‹@rocknrollbus› :)    ​

Wealthwatch  Friday Evening OOTW Chat 1-8-16   Part 1 of 2

WEALTHWATCH  1-8-16
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rocknrollbus: Listened to the XXX call. they came up with some cockeyed formula for a price on the new coins. $35 spot? price?? 22*35
​
rocknrollbus: 22*35=770/250=3.08
rocknrollbus: Where do they come up with this schiite???
 
Donnie: where is the following example wrong?
 
rocknrollbus: They said 22 grams x $35 $ spot = 770 divided by 250 dinar = $3.08
rocknrollbus: Where are they getting $35 spot?
rocknrollbus: For gold price
 ~~~
Donnie: 32″ TV costs $100 x 1166 dinar = 116,600 Dinar. Oil sells for $38 per barrel x 1166 = 44308 Dinar income   Donnie: RV $1 to 1 Dinar

Donnie: 32″ TV costs $100 = 100 Dinar. Oil sells for $38 per barrel = 38 Dinar income
Donnie: good for Iraqi buying a TV but bad for Oil companies not receiving Dinar
Donnie: so it helps the iraqi people buy goods but hurts Iraq’s major commodity sales
Donnie: GOI money comes from sales of oil so it would hurt the income to the GOI
 
rocknrollbus: What I’m asking is, where are they coming up with the $38 gold spot?
 
Donnie: what’s is flawed with this line of thought?
 
OOTW: SORRY TO INTERUPT
OOTW: WE JUST GOT THIS ARTICLE FROM NEWBIEDA
OOTW: TY NEWBIEDA
 
Donnie: ‹@rocknrollbus› i’m not answering you
 
OOTW: THANKS NEWBIEDA Parliamentary Finance: a project to reconsider the price of the dollar exchange under thousand dinars History of edits:: 2016/1/8 19:13 • 219 visits readable [Image: story_img_568fde2ecafd9.jpg] [Baghdad-where]
 
Parliamentary Finance Committee unveiled a project to reconsider the dinar exchange rate against the dollar with the government and the central bank, denying talk about the quest to deliver to the dollar exchange rate thousand dinars. He said the decision of the Finance Committee MP Ahmad Haji Friday,
 
“This speech is contrary to the fact that price of the dollar against the dinar will not be up to 200 000 dinars for one hundred dollars, pointing out that there was a project studied by the Central Bank and the Council of Ministers, and the Finance Committee, to reconsider the exchange rate The dollar against the dinar.
 
rocknrollbus: OOOOOOOHHHH
 
OOTW: The MP Haji that it is still a project under study and no decision, where they are studying Is Iraq could reconsider in the exchange rate, and whether it is in the Government’s interest or detrimental to the citizen ?, noting that a review of the exchange rate would be the government’s interest but hurt the citizen,
 
as this will increase the exchange rate to runaway inflation, and an increase in commodity prices, stressing the need to take it into consideration and study of all aspects of the project, before making any decision. “
 
And the deputy Haji that a review would be an increase of the dollar, a decline in the price of the dinar against the dollar, because the government can not raise the price of the dinar against the dollar, at the time of its imports in dollars and expenditure in dinars, pointing out that the increase in price of the dollar is what is the benefit to the government. “
 
Iraq is facing a financial crisis due to the sharp decline of oil, in terms of financial budget for this year with a total expenditure of more than 105 trillion deficit accounted for 22.8%.
 
OOTW: He noted Finance Minister Hoshyar Zebari on Monday in a newspaper interview that “there are several alternatives [oil], including borrowing from international institutions, few benefits, and we did it.
 
For example we have received help from the International Monetary Fund, and a few days ago we received one billion and 200 million dollars from the World Bank, we have introduced a monitoring program on how we manage the financial and economic policy, and if we could get help more of them, as we intend to sell sovereign bonds, because the situation in Iraq this year better than last year in this regard.
 
 ” He explained that “The other option is how to raise the Iraqi dinar exchange rate, although it may be a risk of selection have repercussions.” is over
 
Donnie: so less of “repercussions” to raise the value of the Dinar now?
 
Donnie: And the deputy Haji that a review would be an increase of the dollar, a decline in the price of the dinar against the dollar, because the government can not raise the price of the dinar against the dollar, at the time of its imports in dollars and expenditure in dinars, pointing out that the increase in price of the dollar is what is the benefit to the government. “
 
Donnie: “the government can not raise the price of the dinar against the dollar”
 
rocknrollbus: Only CBI?
 
OOTW: YES THE ARTICLES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE
OOTW: “WE’RE CONSIDERING LOWERING THE VALUE TO 2000 DINARS PER DOLLAR”

OOTW: “WE’RE CONSIDERING INCREASING THE VALUE”
OOTW: “WE’RE GOING TO RELEASE COINS”
OOTW: “WE’RE GOING TO RELEASE 50K NOTES”
OOTW: NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT, THEY’RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DRAW IN NOTES

OOTW: THAT SEEMS TO BE THE ONE CLEAR COMMONALITY OF MOST OF THESE ARTICLES
 
Donnie: He explained that “The other option is how to raise the Iraqi dinar exchange rate, although it may be a risk of selection have repercussions.” is over…
 
Donnie: looks like the idea to raise the Dinar value is over
 
rocknrollbus: MoP’s saying they’re going bankrupt…………MoF saying 2016 will be increase up to 3.1 GDP
 
Donnie: “”The other option is how to raise the Iraqi dinar exchange rate….” IS OVER
Donnie: but half of this could all be a translation error.
 
OOTW: TRUE DONNIE AND R&RBUS
 
rocknrollbus: Also great article about Maliki stealing billions from Iraq.
rocknrollbus: Did u’s guys see what I posted about the gold coins?
 
OOTW: NO I DIDN’T SORRY
OOTW: DO YOU HAVE A LINK?
rocknrollbus: Was a call last nite. There was an article yesterday? about the coins.

OOTW: AH OK YES, WE HAVE THESE IN THE FORUM
rocknrollbus: They said 22 grams x $35 $ spot = 770 divided by 250 dinar = $3.08
 
OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr…
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3639
 
OOTW: WELL THAT’S EXCITING R&RBUS WE CAN ONLY HOPE
rocknrollbus: That’s the article, but, where are they getting the $35 spot for gold?? That was back in the Kennedy days…………
 
OOTW: HMMM
 
Doug_W: do U want me to post that entire comment that I put in her at 4:30 AM ?
Doug_W: it explains the math
 
OOTW: YES PLEASE DOUG
OOTW: AND I ALSO NEED A LINK TO THE ARTICLE RANDRBUS TO COMPARE TO WHAT WE HAVE HERE
OOTW: IF POSSIBLE?
 
rocknrollbus: Here? 4:30am??
chattels: good evening all
 rocknrollbus: It was a CC call
Doug_W: yes I posted it here
 
OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr… HAS ANYONE READ THIS? IF SO, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT CHATTELS HAS BROUGHT TO US?

http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3639&pid=8875#pid8875
 
Doug_W: Ready?  Doug_W: here it comes
Doug_W: 10:12 AM] wmawhite: Folks,…..this new CBI announcement appears to be straight forward and is in keeping with what they said they would do four weeks ago. At that time the CBI stated that 70% of all of the currency that is out in Iraq was being kept by individual citizens and that they (CBI) had plans to draw that currency into the banks. Well, here it is.
 
However, what is more amazing is what appears to be the placing of a value upon the individual dinar based upon a world accept value of gold. If the translation is correct the CBI is stating that they are selling 15 and 25 gram coins for 100 IQD and 250 IQD. The current spot price of gold is $1,100 per ounce. 25 grams is .77 oz. .77 of $1,100 is $847. Divide $847 by the 250 IQD and you have an equal value of $3.38 per IQD
 
OOTW: READY
OOTW: HMMM
 
Doug_W: IF
Doug_W: he said it twice
Doug_W: appears to be AND appears to be the placing
Doug_W: two loop holes
Doug_W: but MY fingers toes and even eyes are crossed  lol
 
OOTW: LOL
OOTW: HERE’S WHAT CHATTELS HAS POSTED: chattels: ” ……….. the 100 ( gram * ) coins arrived in Iraq and sold 720 thousand dinars.” chattels: Sold for 720,000 dinars, NOT 100 or 250 dinar. chattels: ” Central Bank has contracted with an international company for SEK 5,000 commemorative gold ” ???????????????????
 
chattels: ” an international company ” ……………………… Franklin Mint ??????????????? Smile chattels: 15 grams, a little over 1/2 an ounce of gold, at 720,000 dinars, means that one ounce of gold ( $ 1,100 ) would sell for about 1.4 million dinar. At one time we paid about $ 1,100 dollars for one million dinar.
 
 chattels: Sounds like ” devaluation ” to me. chattels: Or we can use the Iraqi euphemism of ” adjustment”. chattels: The article does seem to say that the coin is ” 250 dinar “, but it also says ” commemorative “.
 
Doug_W: yuup we discussed that early this AM
 
chattels: ‹@OOTW› you have been very busy today :)
 
OOTW: IN BETWEEN MULTIPLE GRANDDAUGHTER’S FEEDINGS, YES
 
OOTW: WELL, I’M NO MATH PERSON, SO CAN SOMEONE TELL ME THEIR TAKE ON THE FAULT BETWEEN THESE TWO OPINIONS? NO OFFENSE CHATTELS, I’M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LANGUAGE OF THESE ARABISH ARTICLES IS REALLY SAYING
 
chattels: ‹@OOTW› Catching up on the news, been away all day

OOTW: HERE’S WHAT THE ARTICLE SAID AND I’M NO EXPERT BUT….READ THIS FIRST AND THEN I’LL COMMENT
 
OOTW: The Central Bank, today called on banks to purchase gold coins gold categories [100] and [250], indicating that the 100 coins arrived in Iraq and sold 720 thousand dinars.
 
The Bank said in a statement received in all Iraq, “aimed at diversifying public savings and to ensure he receives 24 karat gold, the Central Bank has contracted with an international company for SEK 5,000 commemorative gold coin of class 100 dinars weighing 15 grams in the 84th anniversary of the founding of the Iraqi monetary authority of 1930”.
 
“It was also agreed that the 5,000 coin minted class 250 dinars weight 22 grams to mark the eighth anniversary of the founding of the Iraqi Central Bank in 1947. The Bank noted that “received the first of these coins that are weighing 15 grams and will put it up for sale through banks.”

OOTW: ” to ensure he receives 24 karat gold”
OOTW: HOW ARE THESE COINS COMPLETELY GOLD?
OOTW: THUS PROMPTING THE NEED FOR “SPOT” PRICES?
OOTW: LIKE I SAID, I’M NO EXPERT, BUT THIS SEEMS ODD TO ME
OOTW: I OWN SOME SILVER AND THEY’RE .999 SILVER
 
chattels: Reidar Visser ‏@reidarvisser 8h8 hours ago Shia clergy criticism of stalling #Iraq reforms directed at “all 3 branches of govt”, but implies more criticism of PM Abadi than before.
 
OOTW: 24 KARAT, I DO NOT BELIEVE, WILL CONTAIN THAT MUCH GOLD PER COIN (AT ALL)
 
chattels: Reidar Visser ‏@reidarvisser 12h12 hours ago In sign of impatience with Iraqi politicians Shia clergy use Friday prayers to say “no real reform” achieved in 2015

www.alliraqnews.com/modul… …
http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=26467
 
chattels: ‹@OOTW› Twenty-four karat gold is pure Au, and is seen only in bullion bars.

chattels: beststuff.info/the-differ…
http://beststuff.info/the-differences-between-9-14-18-and-22-karat-gold/
 
OOTW: AH OK THANKS   OOTW: I HAVE NO CLUE   OOTW: LOL
OOTW: LIKE I SAID – LAWS I CAN READ ALL DAY
OOTW: BUT…THIS…LOL
 
chattels: gold fill is gold plated. Franklin Mint stuff   chattels: or gold clad

Comments may be made at the end of Part 2  Thank You

Wealthwatch  Friday OOTW  Chat 1-8-16   

 WEALTHWATCH  1-8-16
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Wealthwatch  Friday OOTW  Chat 1-8-16   

chattels: Reidar Visser ‏@reidarvisser 2h2 hours ago In sign of impatience with Iraqi politicians Shia clergy use Friday prayers to say “no real reform” achieved in 2015 

www.alliraqnews.com/modul… …
http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=26467
 
Doug_W: that is like “tell us something we DON’T know”

MichelleL: hello friends
MichelleL: xe has the dinar at .00092 – first time I’ve seen it that high
MichelleL: ok, y’all have a great morning!
MichelleL: never mind, that ” MichelleL: aberration went away, back to .00091 – later friends
 
Donnie: 9 Dec 2015 15:00 UTC – 8 Jan 2016 15:42 UTC USD/IQD close:1092.0 low:1092.0 high:1106.3

Donnie: last months range  ] Donnie: just a drive by :)
Doug_W: drive Slow…
 ~~~

Tootsie: GM, re: the sale of gold coins – a way to pull in the dinar being held in mattresses ~ comment I copied from DA this a.m. ~~ “I cannot wrap my brain about Iraqi people on street carrying gold coins to shop/etc with. I just don’t see them doing such.
 
I do see the possibility of investing some of their dinar into hard currency, as a security item for them; however, I just don’t think they will be purchasing groceries/clothing, etc with gold coins. –

Either way, any purchase of such coins is good due to pulling the dinar down and giving the people a hedge. ” I kinda agree with that. the ones who can afford the coins are going to get em I am sure, just as a way to hold some funds, doubt they will be running around spending them LOL. they would get murdered or held up ~ oh well, we shall see my 2 bits, worth nada LOL
 
Tootsie: oops, stuck my comments in the middle , before the part – my 2 bits, worth nada is from DA .
 
Tootsie: Good ole Maliki, ~ the citizens can count on him to fix everything !! ~~~ snip from an article ~~~ He added that the obligation to provide the necessary requirements and provide solutions for the Parliament to borrow from the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund or the government borrowing from the citizens. ” SURE, BORROW FROM THE CITIZENS –  :whistling:  :whistling: translate.googleuserconte..

http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=3&langpair=auto%7Cen&rurl=translate.google.com&sandbox=0&u=http://www.ara.shafaaq.com/49337
 
OOTW: 01-08-2016 BAGHDAD / obelisk denied the Iraqi Central Bank, on Friday, banknote forgery of class 10 000, which includes a framework around the pale transparent window. Central said in a statement, that ‘banknote of class (10000), which includes the White frame on the transparent window is the official paper issued by the Central Bank of Iraq’,
 
 noting that ‘this added come from for updates conducted by the Central Bank which is located in the new editions in while ago edition of the same category issued in 2013 that the White framework ‘.
 
It ended the Central Bank so that the controversy over banknote, which also includes Alvesforh water and the Blue Line, and confirmed that the White framework also put in categories (5000) and (25,000) thousand as well.
 
OOTW: AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO BEWARE OF FORGERY
 
] OOTW: Baghdad scales News It was launched shortly before the massive demonstrations in Tahrir Square in central Baghdad, demanding not to prejudice the salaries of employees and retirees.
 
A reporter / scales News /, that “hundreds of people demonstrated today in Tahrir Square in central Baghdad, and called on the government not to touch the salaries of employees and retirees.” He said the reporter, “The demonstrators stressed that the need to reform the judiciary and the fight against corruption and implementation of further government reforms” .anthy 29 / D 24
 
OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr…
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3593&pid=8901#pid8901
 
OOTW: Nasiriyah demonstrations demanding political reform and providing the corrupt to justice Local Since 01/08/2016 16:34 pm (Baghdad time) Dhi Qar scales News Dozens of citizens in the province of Dhi Qar, on Friday, calling for reform and to provide the corrupt to justice.
 
A reporter / scales News /, that “dozens of Moatin came out in massive demonstrations in the square Habboubi Nasiriyah city center.” He said the reporter, he “reiterated dozens of demonstrators from the province of Dhi Qar, their demands for political reforms and provide spoilers to justice,
 
while calling for the release of activist Ahmed Taleb al-Asadi, demanded the sacking of the municipality of Nasiriyah director of the restoration of the municipal system.” End quote 29 / D 24
 
OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr…
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3661
 
US forces currently controlled on November dam the river Euphrates north of Syria, according to local coordination committees, what constitutes true that this news first spread of US forces in Syria since the outbreak of the crisis in the country.
 
Coordination Committees and declared that “the forces that currently dominate the November overlooking a dam on the Euphrates River in northern Syria, are US forces, have been taken from the residential city of the dam to the west of the Euphrates River-based.”
 
A statement from the sender committees Thursday January 7 to German news agency (DPA): “These forces are currently waiting for the battle to control the city Manbej west of the Euphrates River north of the city of Aleppo”. And the presence of US troops is what “explains Turkish authorities confirmed earlier that Kurdish security forces had not crossed to the western side of the Euphrates River.”
 
OOTW: The coordinating committees previously published news of the arrival of a group of soldiers and officers of Americans to the city of Ain Arab (Kubani) when the Syrian-Turkish border on November 25, sources confirmed committees formation of US forces joint operations room with the “democratic forces of Syria”, based in the town, insisting in countryside north of Aleppo on December 22 / / December, as a prelude to control the dam October.
 
The international coalition aircraft, led by the United States, targeting residential city to meet the October and villages surrounding the dam as air cover for ground troops, which fought a battle with al-week “Daash” continued even able to control the dam.
 
Several sources of local coordination committees to several news reports indicate that “the organization of Daash is currently on the transfer mechanisms and heavy weapons from city Manbej, as has also the transfer of prisoners from the city, including references to his extradition fait accompli, and the withdrawal from Manbej in favor of Syria’s democratic forces that make up the Kurdish security forces her spine.
 
” This news comes after talk about the “concerns of the bombing of the dam and the flooding of all areas that surround it can cause huge humanitarian, environmental and economic disaster,” ./ ended 29 n / 10
 
OOTW: BAGHDAD / Obelisk: The World Bank predicted that Iraq achieve economic growth of 3.1% during the current year 2016 as a result of the recovery of oil and non-oil sectors compared to 0.5% for 2015. The bank stressed that the ongoing conflicts damaged economic activity in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen and the loss of life and destruction of infrastructure and the movement of trade, the World Bank predicted high growth rate in Iraq.
 
The World Bank predicted high growth rate in the Middle East and North Africa to 5.1% in 2016 compared to 2.5% in 2015. The bank attributed this increase to the expected lifting of economic sanctions imposed on Iran, which would allow it to play a greater role in global energy markets.
 
This expectation from the World Bank, diminish the importance of Iraqi Finance Minister’s comments last week about the lack Baghdad’s ability to provide salaries for employees in the next April. And accordingly it declined Zebari for his statement and said that the federal government is able to pay the salaries of staff and will continue to be provided.

He criticized among political, academic and citizens Zebari’s remarks, and matched in their statements that the salaries of employees and retirees ‘red line’. Iraqis and give confidence the government of Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi in the government’s commitment to providing salaries.
 
 
OOTW: Palm-solid American news sites reported that the volume of stocks of Iraqi officials of previous Governments, as well as officials of the Government of Kurdistan aklik deposited in banks have so far reached (220).
 
That amount alone is enough to counterbalance Iraq for three years without a single barrel of oil exports and indicated that these shocking facts you should see the Iraqi people and the international community to know well where did Iraq funds and wealth over the past years, and why bear the rigours of austerity in the presence of these exorbitant amounts.
 
OOTW: She was the parliamentary Finance Committee revealed on the record about 228 billion dinars as major losses in fake projects was supposed to have been completed during the past year late walking and definitions before the end of the era of the previous Government, indicating that there are political and financial corruption deals behind those numbers with the growing presence of fictitious companies in the country.
 
Magda said Tamimi (member of the Finance Committee in the House of representatives) that “the Iraqi Treasury witnessed a loss of 228 billion Iraqi dinars ($ 186.2 million) in fake projects during the past year, was supposed to be carried out by the competent authorities in the previous Government (referring them to the second term of former Prime Minister Nuri al
 
OOTW: “Most of the projects were awarded to relatives of officials, as managers of the companies, while they were fake don’t exist.” As a member of the Parliamentary Committee on integrity, rebwar Taha, there are over 4600 imaginary project has not been implemented so far has been spent,
 
and that the integrity Commission will verify the invariance of these projects involved and then take the necessary action, noting that among the projects involved senior officials in the State, both former or current.
 
OOTW: SO THERE ARE OTHER TRANSLATIONS OF THIS ARTICLE STATING THE AMOUNT AS 220 BILLION USD – ALTHOUGH I HAVE FOUND BING TO PROVE MORE STABLE..THE ABOVE IS VIA BING TRANSLATION
 
OOTW: SO, AT THE VERY LEAST, I LIKE THAT THEY’RE REPORTING THESE LOSSES TO COME AT THE HANDS OF MALIKI
 
OOTW: Maliki calls on the government to internal and external borrowing to fill budget deficitJanuary 8, 2016January 8, 2016 Walter Date: 01/08/2016 17:35 | Hits: 81 [Image: %D9%86%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9…808%2C1872] Information / follow-up / ..
 
President of a coalition called the rule of law Nuri al-Maliki, on Friday, the government to internal and external borrowing to bridge the budget deficit, noting that the state will be unable to create new jobs this year. Maliki said in a radio interview with one of the local stations, followed up by Agency / information /,
 
that “the government must find the necessary to provide salaries solutions through internal and external Alaguetradin until the return of oil prices to what it once was,” noting that he “met with Finance Minister Hoshyar Zebari and asked him to clarify his recent statement about salaries Zebari said,
 
adding that fear of the state’s inability to provide salary with a marked decline in oil prices and not to emphasize not to hand over salaries in the month of April 2016 “.
 
Maliki said that “the government is obliged with imports of oil money and ports and other resources to provide the necessary requirements for the continuation of the wheel of life as well as the government had a duty to them to provide solutions to the Parliament to borrow from the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund or borrowing from citizens to secure these costs.”
 
“The state will be in this year, is able to provide job opportunities do not even think with lower oil prices higher salaries to improve the living conditions of citizens.” It ended 25 K
 
OOTW: THE BEST THING ABOUT THIS ARTICLE IS THAT THEY DO NOT REFER TO MALIKI AS DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER, OR VICE PRESIDENT

OOTW: THEY REFER TO HIM AS HIS PREVIOUS POST AS HEAD OF THE STATE OF LAW – WHICH BTW, THE SLC OFFICIAL WEBSITE DOES NOT HAVE HIM LISTED AT THE HEAD
 
BOBBY: He could always give back some of the money he stole lol
 
 
OOTW: HEY EVEN IF THEY HANG THIS SOB, IT’LL TAKE YEARS TO GET ANY MONIES BACK
 OOTW: GOVERNMENT APOLOGIZES FOR LACK OF IMPLEMENTING REFORMS

www.wealthwatch.world/sho…
http://www.wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3664
 
 
OOTW: SO THEY WANT TO OVERTURN THE DECISION TO REDUCE THE GOVT OFFICIALS SALARIES, BUT STILL WANT TO TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE
 
OOTW: NO WONDER THE PROTESTS ARE INCREASING AGAIN
OOTW: ABADI’S APPROVAL RATING IS EVER ON THE DECLINE
 
Doug_W: her needs to get the reforms in gear
 
OOTW: I AM LISTENING NOW TO A CC FROM JANUARY 3 2016 – IN THE CALL THEY STATE THAT OIL AND GAS IS PASSED JUST NOT ENACTED…NOW, LET ME SHOW YOU THIS FROM JUNE 2015
 
OOTW: The only way forward to resolve these disagreements between Baghdad and Erbil is to pass the Federal Revenue Sharing Law and the Federal Hydrocarbon Law, as well as establishing the relevant federal institutions underpinned by these laws to regulate the practice in Federal Iraq across all provinces and regions. With a failure to do so, current and future political deals will continue to be short-lived and fail drastically, prolonging the ongoing institutional and constitutional vacuum that has existed since 2006.
 
OOTW: THE FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING LAW HAS HAD ONLY ONE READING
 
OOTW: WHY DOES EVERYONE PIN SO MUCH ON THE OIL AND GAS LAW AS A PRECURSOR OR SIGN OF AN “RV”?
 
OOTW: IT GETS DOWN TO THE REVENUE SHARING LAW
OOTW: THIS LAW (REVENUE SHARING LAW) HAS HAD ONLY ONE READING
OOTW: THAT WE CAN TELL BY THE PARLIAMENT SITE
OOTW: THE GOI/THE KRG STILL NEEDS A CENSUS

 OOTW: AND BTW…IF ALL LAWS WERE IN PLACE PERTAINING TO BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE SHARES TO THE PEOPLE FOR OIL PROCEEDS, THEY COULD EASILY DOLE OUT THE MONIES TO THEM AT THE CURRENT RATE OF THE IQD
 
OOTW: THE PRIMARY REASON TO WATCH FOR THIS, IF EVEN STILL APPLICABLE, IS THAT WE WANT TO SEE COHESION BETWEEN THE GOI AND THE KURDS
 
OOTW: SO, EVEN IF THE HCL IS ENACTED, WE STILL NEED TO WAIT FOR THE REVENUE SHARING LAW IN ORDER TO SUPPORT DINAR LORE, THAT HCL NEEDS TO BE OR IS PASSED – IN EITHER CASE, WE STILL NEED THE FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING LAW
 
OOTW: TO MY MIND, THE PASSING OF HCL, OIL AND GAS, ETC IS NOT AN ALARM BELL THAT THE “RV” IS COMING
 
OOTW: IT’S GOOD, BUT IT’S NOT A TELL TALE SIGN
OOTW: CERTAINLY, WE HAVE SEEN ARTICLES ELUDING THAT THERE HAS BEEN A CENSUS PERFORMED, HOWEVER, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THIS AT ANY GOVT SITE
 
OOTW: YOU MAY READ MORE HERE
OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr…
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3515&pid=8536#pid8536

Jaafari’s Movements Based On Positive Response He Received

The parliamentary Committee on Foreign Relations member Abbas al-Bayati said “the movements of Foreign Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari were based on regional Arab positive feedbacks to his contacts days before.”

He told the National Iraqi News Agency / NINA / that “the Iraqi Foreign Ministry is trying to do something to calm the situation between Riyadh and Tehran against what happened from burning to the Saudi Embassy in Tehran and its Consulate in Mashhad in the presence of a joint Saudi- Iran desire with respect to this endeavor good relations linking with the two parties “.

Al-Bayati said that “Iraq is trying to use the relationship to cool off because the tension and more of it will lead to concerned situation in the region; hence the Iraq seeks to extinguish or reduce this tension that took place after storming and burning the embassy and consulate in Tehran and Mashhad.”

He explained that “al-Jaafari had extensive contacts with his counterparts from several Arab countries, therefore what he is doing based on positive reactions encouraged Iraq to undertake this endeavor and attempt to contain the crisis of burning the embassy and consulate exclusively.”

Foreign Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari arrived in Tehran yesterday, confirming at a news conference with his Iranian counterpart, Iraq’s readiness to mediate between Saudi Arabia and Iran. / End

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