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Neil Keenan: “Proof The Global Accounts Are Alive and Well”

Posted by John MacHaffie

NEIL KEENAN UPDATE | Making History & New Beginnings

DECEMBER 21, 2014 / KEENAN TEAM | GROUPK / 

Making History & New Beginnings

Neil Keenan Christmas Present To You: “The Opening of the Box”

For approximately four years many have followed the extraordinary endeavors of Neil Keenan through numerous highs and lows.

But against all outrageous odds, his  perseverance and utter dedication to the mission have never swayed one bit.  He has held his vision and the deep understanding that he is holding the key and the right IDEAL – save the world.
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Remaining steadfast in not allowing his thoughts and plans to be deterred by anyone or anything, he has always known the right way to move ahead.

There have been many opportunities to cause him to walk away from it all – incredible offers from the Cabal to go away, multiple assassination attempts on his life, and a severely painful leg injury for which he was told surgery was needed.

Any one of these events would have been enough for an ordinary man to give up, retire and wish the world good luck.  But he endured, stayed the course and kept pushing and pushing until the doors opened.  And now they have.

Not only has he and his team finally succeeded in opening the doors, the world can now see what is behind them.  Here is history in the making.

Naysayers, hateful betrayers, malevolent detractors, disinfo agents, sycophants, would-be assassins and Cabal criminals:  Rue This Day!

The Bunker Venture

In a historic precedent of enormous consequence, Neil is the first Westerner to ever enter one of the bunkers.  This one bunker (one of approximately 1,000) is a 16-acre, 4-level underground cavern filled with treasures deposited by the “Family” over many years until the present day.

Access to the bunker was not without multiple and unforeseen challenges.  A number of clearances by the Elders were required before Neil, Nelu and Jo could enter the bunker, but they remained undaunted by the long delays, lack of sleep and spare shelter conditions as they waited “on-call” for entry.

They even found some entertainment with listening to the loud mating calls of the indigenous lizards.  (Neil intends to use one of the lizard calls as a ring tone for his phone.)

A profoundly humble, pure-of-heart man, the Elder “gatekeeper” lead them to the bunker.  It is important to note that several years ago Neil underwent a ceremony conducted by the Elders to determine that his motivation was solely for the highest good — his own pureness of heart.  Only with this being indisputably established was Neil allowed to enter a bunker.

Although they were unable to obtain video inside the bunker during this first venture, what Neil and the team found were chests/boxes apparently filled with gold, jewels, museum artifacts, modern global currencies in all denominations (including 2015 US dollars printed by the Federal Reserve), and of equal magnitude, invaluable documents that detail the truth behind some of the atrocities committed against humanity.  (These documents will be used to fortify Neil’s lawsuit when it is refiled.)  If that wasn’t enough, there was even a full-sized helicopter stored inside.

Upon exiting the bunker, Neil was rewarded for his determination and courage.  The Elder gatekeeper presented him with numerous sealed and locked boxes which, as you will see in the video, required serious manual labor to break open.

Precious few have seen these boxes, much less seen them opened, because only a few have ever gotten close to them before.  Most don’t believe they exist but here is undeniable proof that they do in fact exist.  Here is the first disclosure of what one box might contain.

Before the box was opened, Neil joked that with the Keenan Team’s luck, the contents were probably from Al Capone’s vault that was moved to Asia.  In this one box were gold bars each weighing 1 kilogram (2.3 lbs) and worth approximately $50K.  The ravages of time and humidity have created oxidation and mold on the bars, but there’s no question about what lies beneath.

The Elders unequivocally support Neil and his efforts with a solid, long-term commitment to sustain his efforts.  On behalf of the world at large, we humbly thank the Elders for all that they are doing.

With these assets they are compensating Neil for some of his own expended funds and providing the backing to move forward with his operations to restore our world through humanitarian projects.  These beneficent and wise Elders have given him a “key” to enable the opening the Global Collateral Accounts.  Never before has there been such definitive proof that the Accounts exist!

While many people do not believe that there are Global Collateral Accounts, this is because the Cabal and their cronies have gone to great lengths for the world to accept this as truth.  They have everything to gain in perpetuating their programming that our destiny remains in their total control.

They would have us continue to believe that only carnage, terror and violence change the world overnight.  But we give you undeniable proof here and now that righteous and positive global events can and will manifest to transform our world.

It needs to be very clear, however, that this is not about Nesara or anything like it.  When the Accounts are finally opened, there will be much clean-up to be done and there will be humanitarian projects throughout this world, not just in the West where people will procure jobs.

There will be no hand-outs but only real work to be done to restore our civilization and live up to our potential in a reality where our species will thrive in harmony and prosperity.  These are the hard facts and to believe otherwise is nothing but delusion.

Build the Momentum!

For their part, the West must take action toward the ideal and what absolutely needs to get done.  They must find the courage to make a stand against all that is corrupt and bring real meaning to their lives with action that thwarts what is happening — the complete demise of our species.  Neil has risked all to get us to this point.

By example he has shown how one man can make a tremendous difference in this world.  It is now time to be known for your actions; to be known for leaving this world a better place than how you found it; to be known for the great potential that is inside each one of us.  Choose now the legacy that you will leave for your family and the generations to come.

Round #2 – Upcoming

What a spectacular beginning this is!  Obviously there is still an extraordinary amount of work ahead for Neil and the team, and soon the forthcoming ventures into the bunkers will yield video footage for all to see.

In watching this video you will know beyond a doubt that the Global Collateral Accounts do exist and understand how vital, and delicate, this matter will soon be.  We present this to give you an idea of some of the actual painstaking efforts involved, and, true to Keenan style, with a bit of humor.

And this is our Christmas present to you.  God bless us all – Peace and Joy to the World!

 “The Opening of the Box” Video Part One

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I7qlHERmWDU#t=0

 “The Opening of the Box” Video Part Three

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F1U-Ip2mUO4#t=0

Bits and Pieces in Dinarland Late Sat.PM/ Early Sun.AM

Early Sunday Morning:

Guesses to Exogen’s Picture Clues/Intel


Lonewolf > EXOGEN December 21, 2014 at 2:03am Clues: Counting down 2 different baskets ..rates climbing and watching them go back and forth/change and ‘walk’/go across the wires ‘solo’/individually.Read between the lines..

KayKay December 21, 2014 at 2:16am Countdown to 20 has been cut in half…A quiet celebration looms….Hang in there; the gears are turning and the rates are pinging….It is like walking on a tight rope…..Study for both plan A and plan B.
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G T December 21, 2014 at 3:18am Sunday Clues (@ Midnight WST)

The Countdown has started From 20

This Journey’s Been like WALKING A TIGHTROPE & The World’s GIVEN US LEMONs Everytime…..No More Ping Pong

The Clocks Ticking

Prepare Yourself ONE MORE TIME……Review over your Bookshelf of knowledge you’ve picked up so you won’t Be Surprised at any GOTCHA’s that you may encounter before & After Exchange

Going to Sleep Now…..

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Vinman December 21, 2014 at 9:41am

The countdown from 20 has been cut in half.

The basket is climbing.

Watch the ping pong match and the tightrope walking in the media.

Read between the lines.

We are counting down to the Iraqi budget release on Monday.

The basket is ready…..and the table is set.

So don’t forget your Off….keeps the bugs (misinformation) away.

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Late Saturday Night:

TNT:


Duck_Do: THERE IS A COMMON DENOMINATOR IN MOST OF THE COUNTRIES THAT ARE TOP ON THE REVALUE LIST, THEY WERE ALL ONCE VERY PRODUCTIVE IN THE ANCIENT PAST.

ZIM HAS THE OLDEST GOLD MINDS IN THE WORLD, VIETNAM HAS STUFF WE HAVE NEVER BEEN TOLD ABOUT, AND IRAQ IS LOADED WITH ATIFACTS…

ANCIENT IRAQ WAS ONCE VERY WEALTHY, THE ARCHAEOLOGIST IN ME THINKS THERE MAY BE SOME SORT OF CONNECTION

Goldengirl:  DUCK, YES, EVEN JUST BEFORE SADDAM, I BELIEVE, THEY WERE AN AMAZING COSMOPOLITAN, CULTURAL CENTER, WE JUST AREN’T SHOWN THAT….

THE GOVERNEMENT OF IRAQ IS NOW TAKING IT’S RIGHTFUL PLACE, THEY ARE A VERY WEALTHY COUNTRY

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Dinar Updates:

Poppy3:  BEEN REVIEWING THE NEWS FROM THE LAST FEW DAYS. …WE ARE ABOUT TO SEE THE RESULTS OF ALL THE WAITING AND ALL THE UPS AND DOWNS. 

 HOPE YOU ARE ALL READY FOR THIS EVENT…AND BY THE WAY THEY ARE IN NUMEROUS MEETINGS TODAY IN IRAQ SO ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN

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Poppy3 :  I DON’T HAVE BUT A MIN BUT WANTED YOU TO REMEMBER RICH FRIENDS…UP UNTIL ABADI TOOK OVER AND ALL THE DISCOVERIES OF FRAUD, THEFT, MURDERS, ETC. AGAINST MALIKI, IRAQ WOULD HAVE NOT NEEDED A LOAN BUT THEY HAVE NOW PLACED THEMSELVES IN THE SAME POSITION AS KUWAIT AND NOW HAVING TO GET A LOAN MAY BE BENEFICIAL FOR US PERTAINING TO THEIR INTRO RATE. …

KUWAIT RAISED THEIR RATE TO JUST OVER $9.00 FOR 6 DAYS TO QUALIFY FOR THE LOAN…ONCE THE PAPERS WHERE SIGNED THEY DROPPED IT BACK TO $2.83 AND IT HAS NOW RISEN TO $3.58. THATS WHY I TELL PEEPS TO STAY VERY ALERT BECAUSE THE TIMING CAN BE VERY IMPORTANT.

THEY MAY HAVE CHANGED LAWS SINCE THEN TO PREVENT THIS HAPPENING…ONLY TIME WILL TELL.

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I4U:

[BigDog-OH] (Copied From Twitter)  @JCR3758: The IMF has stated that their work is done in Iraq & implementation has started. HCL & other new laws go into effect Jan 1st. GOI ready. Funds are ready & deposited in paymasters accts. Advanced training for wealth mgrs done. Global Central Banks ready. Hell we are ready! More announcements are being done in Iraq to prepare the people of the currency changes. Vendor awareness to prevent abuse & overpayments. Guys some people will exchange b4 Xmas. Others will have appts till the end of year & continue in Jan. The banks are ready. UST ready now.

GET:

[.MikeH] 1. A four-year-old child, whose next door neighbor was an elderly gentleman, who had recently lost his wife. Upon seeing the man cry, the little boy went into the old Gentleman’s’ yard, climbed onto his lap, and just sat there. When his mother asked him what he had said to the neighbor, the little boy just said, ‘Nothing, I just Helped him cry.’

[.MikeH] 2.
Teacher Debbie Moon’s first graders were discussing a picture of a family. One little boy in the picture had a different hair color than the other members. One of her students suggested that he was adopted. A little girl said, ‘I know all about Adoption, I was adopted..’ ‘What does it mean to be adopted?’, asked another child. ‘It means’, said the girl, ‘that you grew in your mommy’s heart instead of her tummy!’

[.MikeH] 3. On my way home one day, I stopped to watch a Little League base ball game that was being played in a park near my home. As I sat down behind the bench on the first- base line, I asked one of the boys what the score was ‘We’re behind 14 to nothing,’ he answered With a smile. ‘Really,’ I said. ‘I have to say you don’t look very discouraged.’ ‘Discouraged?’, the boy asked with a Puzzled look on his face… ‘Why should we be discouraged? We haven’t Been up to bat yet.’

[.MikeH] 4.
Whenever I’m disappointed with my spot in life, I stop and think about little Jamie Scott. Jamie was trying out for a part in the school play. His mother told me that he’d set his heart on being in it, though she feared he would not be chosen.. On the day the parts were awarded, I went with her to collect him after school. Jamie rushed up to her, eyes shining with pride and excitement.. ‘Guess what, Mom,’ he shouted, and then said those words that will remain a lesson to me….’I’ve been chosen to clap and cheer.’

[.MikeH] 5. An eye witness account from New York City , on a cold day in December, some years ago: A little boy, about 10-years-old, was standing before a shoe store on the roadway, barefooted, peering through the window, and shivering With cold. A lady approached the young boy and said, ‘My, but you’re in such deep thought staring in that window!’ ‘I was asking God to give me a pair of shoes,’ was the boy’s reply.

The lady took him by the hand, went into the store, and asked the clerk to get half a dozen pairs of socks for the boy. She then asked if he could give her a basin of water and a towel. He quickly brought them to her. She took the little fellow to the back part of the store and, removing her gloves, knelt down, washed his little feet, and dried them with the towel.

By this time, the clerk had returned with the socks.. Placing a pair upon the boy’s feet, she purchased him a pair of shoes.. She tied up the remaining pairs of socks and gave them to him.

 She patted him on the head and said, ‘No doubt, you will be more comfortable now..’ As she turned to go, the astonished kid caught her by the hand, and looking up into her face, with tears in his eyes, asked her: ‘Are you God’s wife?’   

Millionday Saturday Night News Part 2

Millionday News 12/20/14  Part 2

Welcome to dinarupdates.com for news time with Millionday!

Millionday: LET ME SAY SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT THE RATES

Millionday: THERE ARE RULES AND COMPLIANCES WITH THEM AS WELL – 

IF THEY COME OUT AT A MANAGED FLOAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO MOVE MORE THAN 2% IN EITHER DIRECTION — THERE ARE MANY RULES TO OUR GLOBAL MARKET BUT ONE THAT IS IMPORTANT IS THIS

Millionday: THE PRICE OF THEIR CURRENCY IS AS A PRODUCT IT HAS TO BE PRICED FAIRLY AND SOLD HONESTLY —

 IF THEY CLAIM IT IS ONE VALUE AND IT IS ANOTHER THAT IS NOT FAIR TRADE AS WITH ANYTHING – 
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THE EXPERT ON CURRENCY TRADING WOULD BE AN EXPERT IN HIS/HER OWN RIGHT AND I AM NOT A STOCK MARKET OR CURRENCY MARKET EXPERT SO THE ANSWERS ARE VAGUE DUE TO MY LACK OF EXPERTISE IN THAT FEILD —

 THE SMARTEST PERSON IN THE ROOM IS THE ONE THAT IS OK WITH SAYING —– I DONT KNOW — SMILE

poppy3: I DON’T HAVE BUT A MIN BUT WANTED YOU TO REMEMBER RICH FRIENDS UP UNTIL ABADI TOOK OVER AND ALL THE DISCOVERIES OF FRAUD,THEFT,MURDERS ETC AGAINST MALIKI IRAQ WOULD HAVE NOT NEEDED A LOAN

BUT THEY HAVE NOW PLACED THEMSELVES IN THE SAME POSITION AS KUWAIT AND NOW HAVING TO GET A LOAN MAY BE BENEFICIAL FOR US PERTAINING TO THEIR INTRO RATE.

REMEMBER KUWAIT RAISED THEIR RATE TO JUST OVER $9.00 FOR 6 DAYS TO QUALIFY FOR THE LOAN ONCE THE PAPERS WHERE SIGNED THEY DROPPED IT BACK TO $2.83

 AND IT HAS NOW RISEN TO $3.58

THATS WHY I TELL PEEPS TO STAY VERY ALLERT BECAUSE THE TIMING CAN BE VERY IMPORTANT.

THEY MAY HAVE CHANGED LAWS SINCE THEN TO PREVENT THIS HAPPENING ONLY TIME WILL TELL POPPY3

Millionday: THAT IS TRUE POPPY AND A GOOD POINT — I AM GOING TO FIND FOR US ALL THE LAWS AND WILL BE MAKING A POST SO WE ARE MORE CLEAR ON WHAT THE NEW LAWS ARE

Imperator: WITH ISIS AND THE FALLING RATE OF OIL, DO YOU STILL FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHERE WE ARE?

Millionday: YES I DO — AND ALSO HAVE SOME NEW NEWS ON IRAQ AND THE 60 COUNTRIES THAT ARE TAKING PART IN THE DEMISE OF ISIS

Millionday: LET ME SAY THAT A MANAGED FLOAT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE WITH ENTRY TO THE GLOBE AS THEY ARE AND

Millionday: THE ENTRY TO THE GLOBE WILL BE AT A RATE OF VALUE THAT IS NOT IMPOSED BUT WILL BE A REALITY RATE HOWEVER DUE TO THE MASSIVE CONTRACTS –

 I CANT IMAGINE NOT HAVING IT AT A MANAGED FLOAT MEANING HELD BY 2% IN EITHER DIRECTION

Millionday: SO THAT I WILL BE FINDING FOR US IN INK

Imperator: A CURRENCY HAS NEVER FLOATED FROM A TENTH OF A PENNY TO THREE DOLLARS. OR EVEN ONE DOLLAR.

Imperator: SO FLOAT FROM REALITY?

Millionday: YES FROM ITS CALCULATED REALITY DUE TO THE GROWTH OF GDP ETC

Millionday: FOR FAIR MARKET PRICES

faith1: 2% either way and 90 days,,, yes ?

Millionday: I AM NOT SURE ON THE 90 DAYS AND NEED TO FIND IT IN PRINT EVEN THOUGH I HAVE HEARD THAT ALSO I AM THE INK GIRL AND WOULD FEEL BETTER IF WE HAD IT IN INK

mfree05: Any word on the status of the banking reform and Investment laws? Are they passed and just waiting to be implemented, or awaiting parliament still?

Millionday: THEY ARE WAITING TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY WHAT I HAVE IN MULTIPLE REPORTS

quicktolegit96: if it helps, you brought it in awhile back with the IMF GUIDELINES – 90 DAYS

Millionday: I MUST HAVE IT SAVED THEN — I WILL FIND IT AND BRING IT WHEN I DO

Millionday: OK I HAVE A COUPLE HUGE AND VERY IMPORTANT REPORTS TO BRING

Millionday: HOLD YOUR HAT

Millionday: Deputy Prime Minister Bahaa al-Araji said that the Cabinet will hold a special meeting on Monday to discuss the financial budget and voting on them.

They said, in a press statement: “The Council of Ministers will be held tomorrow an extraordinary session to discuss the financial budget,” explaining that ” If agreed to vote and be passed if it is not agreed upon by the vote Tuesday. “

He added that “there is nothing to hinder the vote except for some technical things,” pointing out that it “will be present in the House of Representatives at the end of the year.”

Millionday: THE PROMISE BY ABADI WAS THAT PARLIAMENT WOULD HAVE THE BUDGET BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR TO BE PASSED SO WE SHALL SEE

Millionday: BRB WITH MORE

Millionday: GET READY TO HAVE A HUGE SMILE ON YOUR FACE

Millionday: Baghdad next week, the influx of a number of presidents and leaders of Western and European countries, as part of a desire tireless efforts to support Iraq in its war against terrorism, countries,

and to support the government’s drive to open up to neighboring countries and the world to serve the interest of the country and enhances the agreed security and economic cooperation.

He revealed the Information Office of the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi “morning”, for prospective visits to the Australian Prime Minister and foreign ministers of the Netherlands, Italy and the European Union, to discuss cooperation in security and economic fields and ways of enhancing them.

Millionday: NOTE — THIS IS A HUGE MEETING

Millionday: HUGE

Millionday: WHOOOPOW AND WOW

Millionday: BRB WITH MORE

Millionday: GET READY TO HAVE A MUCH BIGGER SMILE ON YOUR FACE

Millionday: Abdel-Latif, the government has achieved 100 days after its formation unprecedented success in the Foreign Relations file, which promised MPs a “positive step” in the right direction in the way of strengthening the role of Iraq between the Arab, regional and international countries.

Millionday: NOTE — THIS IS WHERE WE ARE

Millionday: NOTE — THIS IS THE 100 DAYS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT WHEN THE GOV WAS FORMED AND THIS WAS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE LAYOUT OF THE GOV PROGRAM

Millionday: NOTE — ABADI IS GOING TO KUWAIT THIS WEEK

Millionday: He expressed his deputy confidence, during his speech for ” morning “, to reap the fruits of these visits soon, referring to the approval of Kuwait on Iraq’s request to postpone the payment of the last payment of compensation imposed by the Security Council of the United Nations for the invasion in 1990,

and the willingness of Saudi Arabia to open an embassy in Iraq and good relations with Qatar, Iran and the United Arab Emirates and Jordan , as well as Western countries after formed an international coalition to strike terror who occupied large areas of Iraq.

Millionday: It considered a member of the Committee dreams Husseini, the three presidencies have contributed to the strengthening of the external relations with neighboring countries and the region and the world as a matter of policy of the government during the next phase.

She told ” morning “: that Iraq needs to get back strongly to its Arab, regional and international to fend off fierce attack he suffered at the hands of” Daash “gangs of terror, as part of the region threatened by” Daash “In total.

considered Husseini said what the executive and legislative branches in the file Foreign Relations successful reckoned with and a step in the right direction.

Millionday: NOTE — THE FOREIGN POLICIES THAT WERE TO BE DONE HAVE BEEN AND NOW THE INTRODUCTION OF SUCH IS TO BE PRESENTED TO THOSE LEADERS AS THE NEW IRAQ FOR THE NEXT PHASE

Millionday: In turn, alerted the committee member Muthana Amin on the presence of significant activity in the diplomatic movement in Iraq and on the level of all presidencies through mutual with States visits, 

and that will contribute to ease the burdens it in the face of security and financial challenges, and will impact on the independence of the local decision. 

He hinted in his statement, “morning”, that such visits should be, she says a host of practical field procedures to create the desired results from these relationships. 

and found a member of the House denominator bonded, improved relations with the States, a positive sign in the implementation of the program government.

Millionday: NOTE — THIS WAS ANNOUNCED TO THE CITIZENS THIS MORNING AND IS THE STATEMENT THAT THEY ARE PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GOV PROGRAMS

Millionday: NOTE — AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY AND THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE SHOULD ALL SEE WITH IRAQIS AS WELL AFTER ALL OF THIS PREPARATION

Millionday: He stressed in his speech for the “morning”, the need to use economic and potential of Iraq’s site, such as the sale of oil to Jordan at subsidized prices and oil pipeline stretching across Turkey, an outlet to take advantage to improve relations and development.

Millionday: SO THIS IS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND THIS IS ALL FOREIGN DIPLIMENTARIES AND GUESS WHAT ? THEY HAVE HUGE SMILES ON THEIR FACES

Millionday: END OF REPORT — WHOOOPOW

Millionday: she says a host of practical field procedures to create the desired results from these relationships. 

and found a member of the House denominator bonded, improved relations with the States, a positive sign in the implementation of the program government.

Millionday: she says a host of practical field procedures to create the desired results from these relationships. 

and found a member of the House denominator bonded, improved relations with the States, a positive sign in the implementation of the program government.

Millionday: she says a host of practical field procedures to create the desired results from these relationships. 

and found a member of the House denominator bonded, improved relations with the States, a positive sign in the implementation of the program government.

Millionday: SO THERE WE HAVE IT  THATS THE NEWS

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Saturday Night Jester and Friends Chat

Jester’s Place:

[alfonse] When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.” – Frédéric Bastiat

[Vigilance] alfonse is that from “The Law” – sounds familiar

[alfonse] Vigilance Yes

[alfonse] That was written over 150 years ago

[Jester] HI ALL

[tallpines] Jester, Hello thanks for what you and your team of mods have done and taught us.. an off topic question, not sure if you have the answer but do you feel/know if Grunts project funding for businesses are still in play

[Jester] tallpines I DO NOT… HOWEVER YOU HAVE SEEN ZAP’S POSTS I SUPPOSE HAVEN’T YOU?

[tallpines] Jester I’ve read his stuff but not sure if it is the same as what Grunt was doing
 
[Jester] tallpines PRETTY MUCH… STRAIGHT TO THE SOURCE…

[LdyFaith] Jester,,, did you see Markz’s post in recaps about Cottrell ?,,, was interesting

http://www.dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/message-from-markz-and-michael-c-cottrell-posted-by-sweetqueen-at-i4u-12-20-14

[Jester] LdyFaith YEAH WELL WE HAVE KNOW FOR SOME TIME ABOUT COTRELL AND HODGES… WE JUST HAVE NOT BEEN COMFORTABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR SAFETY REASONS… NO SENSE MAKING IT WORSE FOR THEM IN ANY WAY….

[Jester] NOW THAT THEY ARE COMING OUT IN THE OPEN I SUPPOSE WE CAN SAY WHATEVER WE LIKE… HAHAHAHAHAH

[LdyFaith] Jester,,, seems so,,,,,even names I suppose

[Jester] YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE BACKGROUND WITH WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM AND WHO DID IT… CMKM AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS… IT HAS NOT BEEN MAINSTREAM ENOUGH TO TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS OF IT BEFORE NOW… AND THE THREAT OF BARING IT ALL APPARENTLY IS SOMETHING THEY WILL NOW LIKE TO DO… SO IT IS WHAT IT IS IN THAT REGARD…

[LdyFaith] Understand

[Jester] LdyFaith I SUPPOSE THEY DO NOT WORRY THAT NOW IS TIME FOR THE NAMES TO COME OUT I SUPPOSE… UNFORTUNATELY IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF OTHER EXPLANATION FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS JUST DONE…

[LdyFaith] Jester,,, seems the fact that they are coming out in the open, , means things have progressed to the point it is safe to do that ?

[Jester] LdyFaith I PROBABLY WOULDN’T HAVE DONE IT IF IT WAS ME… THERE IS A LOT OF CHANCE IN WHAT THEY ARE DOING… A LITTLE SCARY I WOULD SAY… BUT I KNOW THEY ARE TIRED OF THE DELAYS AND NOW IT IS APPARENTLY MORE IMPORTANT TO CALL THE BLUFF OF SPILLING ALL…

[LdyFaith] Jester,,, those that dont understand by now,,,, have been in the wrong room

[Jester] LdyFaith TRUST ME… YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHAT JUST HAPPENED…. THIS INFORMATION HAS NOT BEEN OUT IN THIS WAY BEFORE…

[Jester] YOU WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT COTTRELL AND HODGES AND OTHERS THAT I WILL NOT NAME ARE TO DO IN THIS SCENARIO…

[sandyc] Jester what can the rest of us do besides being prepared as best we can to show our support and try to help

[Jester] I REALLY CAN’T BELIEVE THEY JUST DID THAT TO TELL THE TRUTH… HAHAHAHAH

[LdyFaith] Jester,,, you have let us know how desperately convoluted everything is within our gov,,, without details we should not have,,, pray all are safe

[Jester] Pilgrim WELL… SORT OF… YOU STILL DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT… HAHAHAHHAHA

[Pilgrim] hahahaha no, I prob. do not but I do realize it is BIG and will evolve

[Jester] THAT WHOLE THING IS A THREAT TO TELL YOU ALL OF IT APPARENTLY… GLOVES OFF AS HE SAID…

[LdyFaith] Jester,,,scarry stuff

[GodsGurl] Jester when you talked to Mark Z the other day did he mention he was planning to post this?

[Jester] GodsGurl WE TALKED ABOUT THE WHOLE THING… BUT I THINK COTTRELL PROBABLY PULLED THE PIN SINCE I TALKED TO MARKZ…

[Pilgrim] Jester are you amazed by this too?

[GodsGurl] Jester I couldn’t believe I was reading it

[Jester] GodsGurl WELL… MOST OF THE REST OF THE STORY IS WHAT YOU WILL REALLY BE INTERESTED IN… THAT IS THE PAST DEEDS… STILL LEFT IS WHAT IS COMING…

[GodsGurl] Jester can you tell us any of the rest of the story?

[Jester] GodsGurl GodsGurl I COULD…. THEIR INVOLVEMENT IS FOR PART OF THE DOLLAR REFUNDING PROJECT… BUT IT IS NOT MY STORY AND WOULD BE MUCH BETTER TOLD BY THEM…THEN THEY CAN TELL WHAT THEY LIKE TO… BUT THAT IS WHAT IS AT STAKE AND WHAT THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH TALKING ABOUT… EVEN THOUGH SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGES OVER TIME ABOUT WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE NOW… THEY ARE STILL VERY IMPORTANT IN THE PROCESS…

[GodsGurl] Jester fascinating. I feel like we are watching history in the making

[Jester] SO IT IS PROBABLY PRUDENT FOR ME TO LET THEM TELL IT THE WAY THEY WILL LIKE TO…

[Jester] PLUS THEY SAID WHAT THEY LIKED TO… SO I RESPECT THE PART THAT THEY TOLD WHAT THEY COULD… AND WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW…


[tpw] Jester does it have anything to do with sony

[Jester] tpw NAH… THAT IS SUPERFLUOUS BS THAT IS JUST SILLY POSTURING BY ALL…

[Jester] tpw EVEN O SAYS IT WAS A MISTAKE TO PULL THE MOVIE… BUT NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT THAT MAYBE IT WAS A GOOD THING TO DO SINCE HE IS AGAINST IT… MAYBE IT FOILED A PLAN OF HIS…. HAHAHHAHAHA

[LdyFaith] Jester, probably more truth in that statement than not

[pokerbrat] JESTER IT may have foiled his plan of a nuke war with North Korea.

[Jester] LOOKS LIKE THE O’S WERE TRYING TO BLAME IT ON N KOREA AND THEY SAY IT WASN’T THEM… DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? LIKE THE UKRAINE THINGIE?

[LuckyB] yeah does

[Jester] SO WHO DID IT I WONDER? THINK OUR OWN DING DONGS MIGHT HAVE BEEN MAKING A CASE FOR SOME MORE SANCTIONS TO GET SOME MORE HEAT GOING IN THE WORLD?

[Jester] WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME IN THE LEAST… THEY ARE DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR A WAR TO START SOMEWHERE….

[Jester] On Saturday, North Korea described the American claims that it was behind the attacks as slander, and warned the United States not to reject its offer of a joint investigation, the statement carried by the state-run Korean Central News Agency said, according to The Associated Press.

[Betsy Ross] Jester sounds about right. Was my original thought when I first heard of the Sony hacking

[tpw] Jester yesterday morning there was retired FBI man on fox news who said there was only 1 connection to NK out of 1000’s then he never came on again I thought that funny

[Jester   http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/21/world/asia/north-korea-denying-sony-attack-proposes-joint-investigation-with-us.html?_r=2

[Jester] OK…. NEED A LITTLE BREAK… THAT WILL LET THE MODS CATCH UP FOR THE LATE COMERS… AND I CAN GO LET MY FISH GO… HAHAHHAHAH

Bulldog75  & OOM&F Member Q & A

.~Bulldog75] ON DECK; BATTER UP. :)

[mtmark] .~Bulldog75 Hey bulldog!!!! how you been :} 

[.~Bulldog75] NO SILVER PLATTERS TONITE. YOU ASK; I ANSWER :)

[bandit] .~Bulldog75 How bout after tonight

[.SEDNET1] .~Bulldog75 Sir, there was a member question the other day in chat about which currencies still look best to diverify into, Your Opinon as to which ones?

[.~Bulldog75] ALL ANSWERS ARE IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, IMHO. DISCLAIMER, DISCLOSURE : NO ANSWER IS INTENDED TO BE ADVICE LEGALLY OR FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES. THIS IS STRICTLY ENTERTAINMENT. OF COURSE, EVERYONE ALREADY KNEW THAT.

 [.~Bulldog75] BUT WE ALL KNOW THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR OUR FUTURE. BLESSINGS AND WELCOME.
~~~

[.~Bulldog75] .SEDNET1 ; ANSWER: HONG KONG DOLLAR, AUSSIE, YUAN, CANADIAN, RUPIE, MARK. MY TOP CHOICES

[.~Bulldog75] I LOVE MULTIPLE CURRENCIES THIS TIME OF YEAR………………

[.SEDNET1] Thank you Sir.

[.~Bulldog75] IT MAKES MY NEW YEAR LOOK SOOOOO GOOOD.

[.~Bulldog75] I JUST LOVE CHRISTMAS, BUT NEW YEARS SHOULD BE A GUSHER.

[.~Bulldog75] BP, EXXON, SHELL NEED SOME GUSHERS.

 [.~Bulldog75] DON’T BE SHY. YOU ARE MAKING THE NEWSPAPERS AT THIS POINT.

.SEDNET1] lol

[.~Bulldog75] OH GEE HEMPHILL, TX HAS JUST SIGNED IN. LONE STAR.

[.~Bulldog75] GO COWBOYS

[.~Bulldog75] I KNOW THAT MAKES SOME OF YOU HAPPY.

[.~Bulldog75] :) HINT.

[..Sambo] COME ON YALL .~Bulldog75 IS HERE WITH A Q&A SESSION – ASK AWAY

[.~Bulldog75] DON’T GO TO BED SAYING TO ONESELF; “I SHOULDA ASKED”.

bandit] .~Bulldog75 Is it of your opinion that no one can stop this now

[.~Bulldog75] bandit ; WHAT ? THE COWBOYS IN SUPER BOWL?

[lilgrl] .~Bulldog75 NO DATE AND RATE QUESTION, BUT WHEN rofl rofl

[.~Bulldog75] bandit ; GOD CAN.

[bandit] .~Bulldog75 Far fetched

[.~Bulldog75] WHEN; AFTER NEW YEARS

[.~Bulldog75] CHINA WANTS TO CASH IN FIRST REMEMBER.

[lilgrl] .~Bulldog75 I was joking but sounds great

[pattycakes] .~Bulldog75 have you talked to Okie??

[.~Bulldog75] pattycakes ; YES TWO DAYS AGO

[bandit] .~Bulldog75 Cowboys need to get rid of JERRY

[camaro] Bulldog75 Are the Kurds happy campers?

pattycakes] .~Bulldog75 is he feeling better

[DinarBob] .~Bulldog75 The rumor mill is overflowing tonight concerning the time of the RV, bailin’s, groups exchanging before Christmas or having appointments and so forth. Any opinion on the rumors?

[.~Bulldog75] camaro ; THATS A MESS OVER THERE. WHO’S ON FIRST ; WHATS ON SECOND; WHEN ON THIRD.

[.~Bulldog75] camaro IT WILL LEVEL OUT WHEN THE GCR HITS SOON.

[lilgrl] .~Bulldog75 that it is :(

[.~Bulldog75] pattycakes ; HE’S GOOD THANKS (OKIE)

[.~Bulldog75] DinarBob ; THERE ARE NO GROUPS EXCHANGING BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

[.~Bulldog75] PERIOD.

[mtmark] .~Bulldog75 .. Do we go after China then?

.~Bulldog75] WELCOME SAN ANTONIO, TX

[.~Bulldog75] mtmark ; CHINA HAS THE GOLD; CHINA MAKES THE RULES. IT JUST LOOKS LIKE IMF MAKES THE RULES.

[.~Bulldog75] REMEMBER; WE ARE PLAYING BASEBALL WITH FOOTBALL RULES.

[DinarBob] .~Bulldog75 The Feds and banking system always shuts down December 15 through January 15. Does this effect the timing at New Years or do we have new rules?

[.~Bulldog75] ITS ALL SMOKE AND MIRRORS SO THE MARKETS DO NOT FALL

[.~Bulldog75] (EXCEPT OIL AT THE MOMENT)

[.~Bulldog75] DinarBob ; AT THIS POINT, IMHO, NO ONE IS SHUTTING DOWN. “EYES OPEN SHUT”. EVERYONE IS AWAKE.

[.~Bulldog75] THROW ANY COMMON RULES OUT THE WINDOW.

[camaro] Bulldog75 Any Great Advice today??

[.~Bulldog75] camaro ; ANY GREAT ADVICE TODAY? WELL, HMMMMMMMMMM. YES.

[camaro] ROFL

[.~Bulldog75] KEEP CASH CLOSE TO YOUR VEST.

[DinarBob] .~Bulldog75 What do you think of “bailin’s” that may be attached to the surprise budget of $1.1 trillion?

[.~Bulldog75] STAY IN COMMODITIES ESPECIALLY LAND, HOMES, GOLD, SILVER COINS, ; ALSO SOME GREAT COMMODITIY BUYS. TO EACH THEIR OWN. :)

[.~Bulldog75] THATS WHAT I LIKE .

[.~Bulldog75] DinarBob ; BAILINS ARE LIKE ‘BAILOUTS’. THE GOVT WILL RESCUE THOSE THAT ARE TO THE BIG BOYS BENEFITS AND FRATERNITY CLUB. CAN WE SAY ‘GOLDMAN SACHS’ FOR EXAMPLE.

 [wennbarb] .~Bulldog75 How does the Republic look?

[pattycakes] .~Bulldog75 some are saying there will be annoucements made can you say anything about this?

[DinarBob] .~Bulldog75 How strong are the US Banks going to be after the GCR? I understand Wells Fargo has become the number 1 bank passing CitiBank Group.

 [.~Bulldog75] wennbarb ; CAN WE SAY JAN.3 IS LOOKING BETTER THAN DEC.?

[wennbarb] .~Bulldog75 yes Sir…

.~Bulldog75] pattycakes ; I MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS REPEATEDLY BUT MY FAMILY DOES WHAT THEY WANT TO EVENTUALLY. THE GCR IS KINDA LIKE THAT. HAS ANYONE REALLY SEEN CONCRETE EVIDENCE BEFORE THEIR VERY EYES THAT MOST OF THIS EXISTS?

[pattycakes] .~Bulldog75 who knows because so much out there

[DinarBob] .~Bulldog75 Will the Republic be eased in the easy way or will the Republic appear with the appearance of new names and faces?

 [.~Bulldog75] pattycakes ; ACTUALLY PATTY MUCH IS UNFOLDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR EYES; THE GOVTMENTS DON’T LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES; CAN WE SAY ’20 EXAMPLES’ WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT FOR ALL OF US TO DOCUMENT AT THIS EXACT MOMENT.

 [pattycakes] .~Bulldog75 Thank you

[.~Bulldog75] WOULD YOU BELIEVE, IMHO, RUSSIA IS ACTUALLY SELLING OIL FOR GOLD. BUT WHO WANTS TO ADMIT IT?

[.~Bulldog75] DID YOU KNOW RUSSIA IS 2ND TO CHINA IN HOARDING GOLD. NO ONE WANTS TO ADDRESS IT .

[.~Bulldog75] A MAJORITY OF NATIONS WILL FOLLOW BRICS. THATS A FACT. ITS HAPPENING NOW. HISTORY UNFOLDING. WILL THAT APPEAR IN A GOVT CONTROLLED USA NEWSPAPER?

[.~Bulldog75] OR MEDIA USA?

 [.SEDNET1] I can repost if you like.

[.~Bulldog75] LET ME CHECK

 [.~Bulldog75] HAAAAAA. THE REPUBLIC. SHALL I SAY; NEW POWER AND NEW FACES ARE JUST A JANUARY AWAY?

[.~Bulldog75] OR REPOST THE Q.

[wennbarb] .~Bulldog75 maybe instead of splitting accounts and putting into 2 different just go BRICs not one for taxes that way it will be there come tax time…

[.~Bulldog75] PROBABLY THE ANSWER YOU WERE LOOKING FOR DinarBob ; THERE ARE MEANS AND WAYS TO CONVER, CONTROL AND ‘MAKE READY’ NEW POWERS.

[.~Bulldog75] CONVERT

[DinarBob] .~Bulldog75 how trustworthy are our banks going to be after the GCR?

 [.~Bulldog75] DinarBob ; I LIKE CASH CLOSE TO MY VEST AT THIS JUNCTION.

[.~Bulldog75] REMEMBER ; BANKS ARE CONTROLLED BY THE CENTRAL BANK. ARE THEY USER FRIENDLY?

[DinarBob] .~Bulldog75 one must get cash from a bank. Will it be TRN’s/USN’s or FRN’s?

 [.~Bulldog75] WHO IS YOUR BEST FRIEND IS THE Q. AND WHO DO WE REALLY TRUST IS THE ANSWER.

[.~Bulldog75] DinarBob ; TRN

[.~Bulldog75] NEW BILLS HAVE BOTH LOGO SYMBOLS TO SOME DEGREE. ITS THE TRANSITION PERIOD.

[.~Bulldog75] CUP HALF EMPTY OR HALF FULL SCENARIO. HAVE NO FEAR. USA WILL NOT TANK. CHINA WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN. THEY HAVE TOO MUCH INVESTED.

[.~Bulldog75] IN USA

 [DinarBob] .~Bulldog75 When we see the TRN’s/USN’s, will we see the Republic as will as the RV for groups like the Generals64 Group and the public, ones that do not belong to a group.

[DinarBob] well as the RV

[wennbarb] .~Bulldog75 we here about BRICS what about Iraq currency…should we get out of it quickly..?

[camaro] Bulldog75 What should our biggest Fear be?….Besides SEDNET1… ROFL

[.~Bulldog75] DinarBob ; LETS SAY THAT SCENARIO IS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED; PUBLIC MAY NOT GET THE BEST DEAL. LETS REMEMBER, “CE AND RATES DEPENDS ON ‘WHO WE ARE AND WHERE WE ARE’. THE FULL ANSWER COMES A LITTLE LATER.

[.SEDNET1] camaro no questions

[camaro] ROFL

[.~Bulldog75] camaro ; HAVE NO FEAR.

[.~Bulldog75] ITS ALL IN THE MIND

[.SEDNET1] Question from wennbarb on the board sir.

[DinarBob] .~Bulldog75 I am interested in the full answer later hopfully tonight.

[.~Bulldog75] MIND OVER MATTER. REJOICE AND BE GLAD IT IS. I AM, THAT I AM. I AM THE GREAT I AM.

[.~Bulldog75] HAVE NO DOUBTS.

[.~Bulldog75] FOR HE IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA. THE BEGINNING AND THE END.

 [camaro] Amen

[.~Bulldog75] AMEN

[.~Bulldog75] THANKS

[.~Bulldog75] QUICK SUMMARY;

[DinarBob] .~Bulldog75 can you expand on that last answer to me? Thanks

[.~Bulldog75] DinarBob ; OF COURSE

[wennbarb] Bulldog75 we here about BRICS what about Iraq currency…should we get out of it quickly..?

[.~Bulldog75] IMHO, WE WILL SEE NEW GOLD STANDARDS/PRICING FOR THE NEW YEAR.; A NEW DIRECTION OF THE USA GOVT.

[.~Bulldog75] YES, RUSSIA IS SELLING OIL FOR GOLD

[.~Bulldog75] CHINA CONTINUES TO HOARD GOLD IN AND OUT OF COUNTRY. CHINA IS BUYING MUCHO GOLD DE AUSTRALIA.

[.~Bulldog75] AUSTRALIA HAS MUCH TO MINE; AND SELL.

[.~Bulldog75] QUIET LITTLE GAME GOING ON OVER THERE WITH CHINATOWN.

[.~Bulldog75] OIL WILL CONTINUE TO DIVE; SORRY BOUT THAT.

[blessingsabundant] When will this administration be gone

[.~Bulldog75] ITS THE OPEC SQUEEZE PLAY WITH RUNNER ON THIRD BASE.

[.~Bulldog75] OH YES AND SOMETHING ELSE.

[mtmark] .~Bulldog75 .. How low will it go?

[.SEDNET1] STOP!

[.~Bulldog75] THE EMERGING MARKETS; ITS PROPPED UP LIKE THE THE USA, STOCK MARKET. THATS BIG TIME CAUTION. I AM OUT OF THE STOCKS ; EMERGING INTERNATIONAL WATCH OUT. THATS MOSTLY TIED TO THE USD.

[.~Bulldog75] I WILL NOT PREDICT; I AM ONLY A MESSENGER.

[.~Bulldog75] LETS DWELL ON THE OPTIMISM; BUT KNOW WE ARE CAUTIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE DO, THINK AND KNOW.

WE CANNOT IGNORE THE OBVIOUS. THE GOOD LORD GAVE US A BRAIN TO USE. WE NEED TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF OUR INTELLECTUAL AND INVESTMENT KNOWLEDGE.

[.~Bulldog75] SOME THINGS WE SIMPLY CAN’T CONTROL. ……..AND WELL ACTUALLY, THATS WHAT THE OVERALL HUGE SITUATION IS AT THE MOMENT.

THE BIG BOYS WHO HAVE ALWAYS HAD CONTROL, DO NOT WANT TO LET GO OF THE CONTROL. BRETTON WOODS HAS BEEN THE PROBLEM SINCE 1913.

[.~Bulldog75] STUDY THAT PLEASE. THATS OUR HOMEWORK FOR TONITE. MUCH AND EASY TO FIND INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE. LETS EDUCATE OURSELVES. IS EVERYONE FAMILIAR WITH THAT TOPIC.

[.~Bulldog75] ???

[.SEDNET1] Have to admit Sir, that is one I obviously need to read, and get a grasp on.

camaro] Bulldog75 Do you smell Smoke?

[DinarBob] .~Bulldog75 If you were expanding on that last answer you gave me; then I guess it went over my head like a N. Korean missile. lol It was the last sentence.

[.~Bulldog75] camaro ONLY FROM MY 327 CAMARO

[camaro] ROFL

[.~Bulldog75] camaro HOW DID YOU LIKE THAT ONE?

camaro] Sweet

[.~Bulldog75] YOU ASKED FOR IT…:))

[camaro] ROFL

[.~Bulldog75] AT THE POINT THE 327 CAMARO HAS OUTRUN THE GCR. :)

[.~Bulldog75] HOW SWEET IT IS.

[.~Bulldog75] IMHO, WE SHALL SEE THE SWEETNESS OF LIFE AND HOW WONDERFUL LIFE IS, VERY SOON. THE NEW YEAR IS A NEW LEASE ON LIFE. :)

[.~Bulldog75] NUMBERS ARE NOT REALLY IMPORTANT AT THIS POINT. BUT IF YOU REALLY MUST KNOW, 3.33-11.11 ARE PRETTY GOOD.

[.~Bulldog75] JUST BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME; AND ONLY THE GOOD LORD KNOWS WHEN. 

[.~Bulldog75] MERRY CHRISTMAS. SEE YOU SOON. AMEN. I AM ONLY THE MESSENGER.

[.~Bulldog75] GONE.

[.SEDNET1] Thank You Sir! Mele Kalikimaka & Hauoli Makahiki Hou!

[camaro] ROFL

 [mrbiz] .~Bulldog75 THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR..

[destiny] .~Bulldog75 Thank so very much and Merry Christmas to you! 

[mrbiz] .~Bulldog75 YES, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A JOYOUS NEW YEAR!

[camaro] Bulldog75 Much Appreciated Brother…..

[mtmark] .~Bulldog75 .. Merry Christmas!!!! 

[camaro] Hug….lol

[DinarBob] .SEDNET1 I was hoping Bulldog75 would expand on this statement: LETS SAY THAT SCENARIO IS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED; PUBLIC MAY NOT GET THE BEST DEAL. LETS REMEMBER, “CE AND RATES DEPENDS ON ‘WHO WE ARE AND WHERE WE ARE’. THE FULL ANSWER COMES A LITTLE LATER.

[.SEDNET1] DinarBob read it again carefully.

[.SEDNET1] Are “we” just the general public? or are “WE” members of a group fo some kind. He is saying the “public” may not get the best rates. Depends upon who “WE”are, and “where” (what group) we are with is what I get from it.

[camaro] SEDNET1 Its Easy to Over think this….Its really Simple….Kinda,Sorta….lol

[DinarBob] .SEDNET1 IMHO, groups like the Generals64 Group may be the key but the “where we are” may be referring to the Republic? I read your answer and I see his numbers that look good. IMHO those higher numbers are groups that are approved by the UST but concerned if the funds will be depleted if your appointment is far out.

 [.SEDNET1] DinarBob 1.) I do not read Republic in that answer at all. 2.) I wonder who originated that “money for contracts will run out” I know, but I have to keep my derogatory comments to myself.

Mnt Goat: “Be Careful What You Ask For” Part 1

UU8548 – “Be Careful What You Ask For”   by Mnt Goat — emailed to Dinar Recaps

Hi Everyone,

This is going to be a great news letter today. A little long so grab a cup of hot coffee, get your reading glasses, find a comfortable chair, sit back and relax. 

There are many topics to cover and it is all related to the process of the revaluation of the Iraq dinar.  Please be patient, sometimes you have to break a few eggs before you can make the omelet…..lol…

I will try to make the needed connections for you as much as I am allowed to tell the story.

Today’s news letter, as in all my news letters, is a continuation of the ongoing saga of the IQD RV process. Please refer back to my last news letter of 12/8 as this news letter is a continuation of this news.
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Today’s News

Many of you keep asking me why the RV is still consistently being held up. Maliki is essentially gone and a new government is now in place but still no RV. Once again we have witnessed this over and over especially in the last couple weeks right up until now. Why?

There are many reasons and I will try to explain some of them that I can talk more liberally about.

I know for a fact that if all went well in Iraq this past week we should have seen this RV. There was a plan laid out by the USA and the CBI. However the Iraqi government did not complete its part of the plan and so it simply will no happen according to this old plan.

This is how the plan was laid out for this week. This weekend the RV being announced,  first in Iraq (showing up on the CBI website) then the new rate going live in Iraq on 12/22.

Many of the groups in the USA would then have been allowed to continue exchanging through the two weeks of the holiday season up until the end of December.

The 800#s were to be activated on 12/18 to begin appointments with exchanges beginning on 12/22. This was the plan and it was not executed.

If you do the math you can see that there was a 10 day delay built into the rollout schedule from when Iraq RV’d and the official USA roll out. I do not know all the details or the concerns as to the necessity for the 10 day delay.

So today is Saturday and still no 800#s- What happened?

My contact in Iraq was informed by the Finance Minister, Hoshyar Zebari, in a news briefing as late as Thursday 12/18, and he said that the ministerial committee in charge of preparing the budget had just completed its work and will provide the general budget in its final form to the Council of Ministers next Monday 12/22. 

You can see in order execute this planned rollout the USA needed this budget done by 12/18 as previously scheduled. So now the plan changes.

So what is the new plan?

Also Ahmed Sarhan, Parliamentary finance committee confirmed on Tuesday 12/16 , that the general budget for the year 2015 Act will reach the House of Representatives later this month, while pointing out that it was agreed to reduce budget expenditures to reduce the deficit ratio.

The head of the parliament Saleem al-Jubouri confirmed also this week, the House of Representatives are ready to hold an extraordinary session in the event of the arrival of the budget to him, pointing out that the government faces challenges in this area and thus may not get a quorum as needed for the session voting.

All of these late budget adjustments/modification have messed up the timetable of the USA for the final phases of the RV rollout plan but be patient.

We all have to take the punches and roll with them. I believe we are still in a very, very close proximity to the final phase completion. The plan now just has to be adjusted a bit for the timing.

So to make a long storie short, everything is now pushed out. Because of the holidays I do not believe we will not see many more group exchanges going on and what is remaining will go with the final announcement and general public. This is being planned out right now as I write this news letter.

A new timetable should be forthcoming soon. I will attempt to bring it to you when I get it. I am hearing they still need to have the RV done once the Iraq 2015 budget is voted on. They are still targeting the end of  2014. They need to open the budget immediately after passing it in parliament.

 Remember this all was originally supposed to be done prior to the end of December 2014 but we see it is now overflowing into January 2015. This is not a good thing. It can not overflow to far into 2015 for obvious reasons. I am still hearing a target of very early 2015.

Seems the early part of a new year is the best time for this RV if we look at the past target dates. So we can probably not expect anything until then.

Is anything done on time in Iraq ? ……lol…..

Every year Iraq struggles to get their budget completed. Their fiscal year ends on Oct 31st. This year is much different however. This year they are facing deficits due to the war and the money stolen due to Maliki corruption.

There is an entire book of projects they need to complete and fund. Sure they have great wealth but you can’t spend oil it has to be brought to market and sold first. The ever changing recent drops in oil prices is causing a constant strain on having to readjust their budget figures over and over again.

The good news is Iraq is now making it public that they will open the oil spigot come 2015 to over 500,000 barrels oil for their annual production. This is amazing !

We can expect yet lower oil prices in the future. Some are saying that this is counterproductive to them since prices will only drop even lower – good old supply and demand economics.

 Yes this is true however the government of Iraq can’t control the other oil suppliers and thus have to raise output to increase revenues since revenues now are lower per barrel. Does this make sense? OPEC now had taken a backseat in allowing this free oil flow. Just why is this all being done this way?

Remember too in the past the IMF and the USA reviewed their budget and then allocated the DUI funding to support it, as appropriate. Since Iraq was not allowed to manage their own revenues from oil for fear of funding terrorists or buying weapons of mass destruction.

We see from the old Maliki administration that this is just what may have happened too. For 2015 there is no legal grounds for this process to continue since Iraq is now a sovereign nation.

So how does the USA keep tabs on their spending? This is a simple matter. They force them to outline their revenue sources and expenditures (using  a budget as the means to do it) and they force them to make it legal (a vote in parliament) so they adhere to it.

 Remember the USA is still in part micro managing Iraq since they are the new kid on the block when it comes to democracy and budgets.

They now motivate them to do this all by dangling the RV carrot in front of them. If the USA does not like something in the budget it will never reach parliament and is negotiated at the level in the council of ministers. This too has caused many delays in getting the budget prepared.

As we can see from my explanation above the Iraq 2015 budget is on everyone’s mind these days. Many think this is the one event we are all waiting on to get our RV. Well I am here to tell you today it is not but certainly has an indirect impact. How can it not?  Sometimes they create chaos to bring us order in the end.

 They (meaning Iraq) are now simply telling us another delay tactic from announcing any completed budget until the time is ripe and they want to push out the final part of the Iraq economic reforms that of bringing back their currency to international status.

Remember they have to tell their citizens something since they keep announcing these reforms will be done in the coming days.

I will attempt to explain to you what is going on behind the scenes and not being told in the news media to us. When I listen to the news media on this topic the information is very, very superficial in nature. What you are being told in part is what I explained above.

 What is reality is much different than their perception. What I am about to tell you now is also part of the situation. Listen up! These are the other reasons for the delay.

A Bit of History

In 2012 we witnessed an announcement by the CBI of their intentions to RV early 2013. The new coins too were supposed to be introduced in Sept 2012. Remember?

The Maliki GOI interfered so then once again delayed the process. After this delay we heard a year later in the fall of 2013 the intentions again to follow up and complete the project to delete the zeros in early 2014. 

Then in late 2013 we witnessed the takeover of the CBI and  once again Dr Shabibi’s plans for an RV were postponed indefinitely as announced by the new governor of the CBI.

 Dr Shabibi had all intentions of rolling this RV out on these scheduled timeframes during these two timetables. The CBI itself has just recently told us these facts in recently published articles so this is not rumor or conjecture.

Remember there are two plans and two RV timetables that must coincide together. One timetable is that of the USA since they hold the POWER to run the software to initiate the final stages of the rollout to the global exchanges and banks. The other timetable is the plan of the CBI and their intentions. The CBI alligns the RV to the political and security situations. There simply must be security in both areas.

The problem is the two plans are not always in sync and often clash as we saw in 2012 and 2013. Our intel here from the USA UST tell us of the USA plan, we then hear the CBI plans on what news articles we get. Some of us have excellent CBI contacts to help us out.

As good intel providers to the dinar investor community we are responsible to try to piece together these plans and sync them up. This does not always happen and so we are left hanging repeatedly when we are only told of the USA plan and do not see, understand or appreciate what is really happening in Iraq and its impact on the USA rollout plan.

Thus the USA plan anticipates certain events in Iraq and adjust their plan for  the RV rollout accordingly. Intel then tells us any day or everyday for the RV. Is the UST then lying to us?

 No – I believe these sources are telling us the current plan. The operative word here is “current”. Do you get it – the “current” plan.

So then when the RV does not happen according to the “current” plan we are disappointed. Maybe if those responsible for this roller coaster ride would only take the time to read the articles and get some real contacts in the CBI they would know and have a sense that the two plans are not syncing up and thus do not announce the USA plan to us to get us all hyped up.

These intel providers could then also get to understand Iraq politics a little better instead of just regurgitating what the UST tells them to say.

 This is much of this constant problem we are having with this everyday and any day hype we keep hearing. Especially during this time of the holiday season this is the last thing we need, more disappointment.

Now we see this happening once again. This time the USA has issues and demands from Iraq concerning their budget. The USA also had other issues of their own budget approval (I will explain all this later).

Yet the current UST plan is being shared with everyone on these dinar info calls. Why? Maybe there is some responsibility to be held accountable by these people who are spreading this RV news without really studying the situation in Iraq themselves. It is not fair to all of us and it is sad.

I know we can’t stop listening to their calls since the news seems addictive and we are junkies. Right? Can you stop listening? Someday we know that the UST plan and the CBI plan will sync up and this one time they will be correct. This is the day we hope for. This is why we keep listening.

The USA Budget Bill of 2015

Okay many of you are now saying how in hell does this impact the Iraqi RV?  It does and let me explain. Let me start by saying that the USA is now once again trying to pay Peter by taking from Paul. Do you know what I mean by this?

Many financial analysts have been telling us for decades that some day over the horizon the USA government would not be able to pay even the interest on the national debt since all of its incoming revenues would be  spent on just paying the interest on the national debt and nothing left for anything else. Could this day now be here?

Without the USA budget where is the funding for the exchanges going to come from? 

Yes – I too know most of the public exchanges will be just electronic deposits to new bank accounts but eventually you will be spending the money such as for businesses, charity work, new cars, homes, annuities, investment portfolios, etc…yes?..no?  

So again I ask – Where is all this money going to come from initially for these products and services? The banks are not just going to give out FREE money. The oil credits are not yet revenue until the oil is sold so this will not happen until sometime in the future.

The answer is in the funding programs the IMF and the UST has been working on since 2003. There are many of these programs and some are very creative. Many of these programs are now fully funded and waiting for transfer to the banks and so yet another sign we are very close the RV exchanges.

So the U.S. Congress has given its final approval for a massive $1.1 trillion government spending plan for most of 2015, ending a threat that the federal government could shut down again if the legislation was not passed.

The measure, approved late Saturday 12/13 in the Senate by 56-40 vote after a vote Thursday by the House of Representatives, funds the government through the current budget year ending next September.  The bill now heads to the White House where President Barack Obama has said he will sign it into law.

Many will tell you this did not matter for the RV and they would be wrong. I explained to you why it matters. No budget, no funding of some of the needed programs. Do you understand? 

Can you see now how last weekend since all this lined up in the USA the Iraq budget schedule too all of sudden was announced it would be completed by 12/18. Can see now why the UST conistently keeps holding up the RV.

Frank Dodd Act

This brings us to the inter-governmental fighting going on now between ploitical parties over provisions in the 2015 budget bill for the USA. One side wanted to strictly apply the Frank Dodd Act provisions and allow in country “bail ins” and the other side apposed.  

They are slick and tacked on this provision to the budget bill as a remedy for revenue generation. So if you vote for the budget you are automatically voting for a “bail in” to help pay for the additional expenditures.

 This was required by the Federal Reserve if any more loans were to be granted to deficit spending in 2015. When will all this madness end?

http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/yes-feds-can-take-your-deposits/#!

Comments may be made at the end of Part 2  Thank You

KTFA’s Backdoc: Thoughts On The Oil Contango

Thoughts  On The Oil Contango

Backdoc Saturday Afternoon Post  —  emailed to Dinar Recaps

IMO

WITH OIL FINDING A BID ON THE FUTURES CONTRACTS WE FINALLY SEE THE OIL CONTANGO DO A DANCE INTO THE SUNSET FOR NOW!

WITH OIL FINDING A BOTTOM FOR NOW, MAYBE IRAQ WILL SETTLE ON A RATE FOR THEIR BUDGET, THEN THEY CAN EXIT STAGE RIGHT, RIGHT INTO A NEW RATE ! 

IT’S TIME FOR THE DONOR CURRENCY TO MAKE ITS’ RACE TO BE LONELY ! DOC 

IMO
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Unread post by Gearhead » December 20th, 2014, 9:48 am • [Post 96]

Prime minister announces date for the vote on the 2015 budget  20-12-2014 11:30 AM

Deputy Prime Minister Bahaa al-Araji, said on Saturday that the Cabinet will hold a special meeting next Monday to discuss the financial budget, and it will be voted on Monday or Tuesday.

They said in a press statement that ‘the Council of Ministers will be held, on Monday, a special meeting to discuss the financial budget ‘, explaining that’ if agreed upon would be passed to vote and vote for them and if they are not agreed upon will vote for in the next day, a Tuesday.

” He said al-Araji told Alsumaria News that ‘there is nothing to hinder the vote except for some technical matters’ , pointing out that it ‘will be present in the House of Representatives at the end of the year’. 

He was a member of the parliamentary finance committee Sirhan Ahmed confirmed, in (16 December 2014), that the general budget for the year 2015 Act will reach the House of Representatives later this month, 

while pointing out that it was agreement to reduce budget expenditures to reduce the deficit ratio. The head of the parliament Saleem al-Jubouri confirmed on Monday (15 December 2014), 

prepared the House of Representatives to convene an extraordinary session in the event of the arrival of the budget to him, pointing out that the government faces challenges in this context.

http://www.ahraraliraq.com/index.php?page=article&id=38280

BLC Admin Tlm724 News & Comments

BLC Admin Tlm724 Morning News Comments 12/20/2014

Disagreement on external borrowing by $ 5 billion postpone an extraordinary session of the government 

[tlm724] so GOI wants to borrow 5 billion dollars from the IMF too help reduce the deficit in the budget but the CBI is saying hey *slap* we have other ways of doing before we take that step

[tlm724] The cabinet held a special meeting on Thursday evening to discuss the federal budget, and talked about the government directed to send the budget to Parliament before the end of the month.

[tlm724] postponed its planned special session Thursday to Monday will be devoted to the discussion of the budget in 2015, “attributing it to” the continued volatility in global oil prices and rising deficit ratio to 36 trillion dinars. “
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[tlm724] Monday will be devoted to the discussion of the budget in 2015,

[tlm724] as we have been saying they continue to work out the details as they should, these are extreme circumstances they before them and when you look at what Maliki did that just made things worse.

they had to spend tons on security just to save their country, the oil prices fell at the same time so we just have to wait this out,.

They will impose taxes etc… but those take time to start seeing the real revenue flowing, they need immediate action to proceed   

[tlm724] hang on just a sec I think rocky posted an art that explains the CBI’s plan brb

Abadi government intends to borrow from the Fund and the Central Bank Calls for Troy 20-12-2014 12:17 AM Parliamentary Finance Committee revealed,

for the government’s intention to borrow $ 5 billion from the International Monetary Fund, but the central bank pressed further ‘expenses pressure’ before heading to external borrowing.

http://www.bondladyscorner.com/t107729-abadi-government-intends-to-borrow-from-the-fund-and-the-central-bank-calls-for-troy

[tlm724] , but the central bank pressed further ‘expenses pressure

[tlm724] get more expenses reduced or eliminated before you borrow externally

[tlm724] we wait til next week to see where they are at
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Araji: The Cabinet will vote on the budget on Monday or Tuesday

The Council of Ministers will be held, on Monday, a special meeting to discuss the financial budget,” explaining that “if agreed upon would be passed to vote and vote for them and if they are not agreed upon will vote for in the next day, a Tuesday

[tlm724] “there is nothing to hinder the vote except for some technical things,” pointing out that it “will be present in the House of Representatives at the end of the year,

[tlm724] technical issues, what we just talked about  

[tlm724] expected in Parliament by the end of the year, 11 days
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The Ministry of Finance resort to tax increases and the imposition of customs duties to reduce the budget deficit

[tlm724] resort to tax increases and the imposition of customs duties to reduce the budget deficit

[tlm724] so they will impose taxes on all goods entering except food and medicine

[raindrop1] so what do you think the hold up is for the full application of the tariffs is…the budget……or dare I say an RV!!!!

[tlm724] *hallelujah* this is another good thing to come out of all this, forcing them to take action on so many levels ! There are silver linings, you just have to look for them   

[tlm724] raindrop1 it wasn’t one specific thing, it has been a combination of things, ISIS, a bad leader M who didn’t want to see any change at all, it took a change in power and will to make these things happen. It’s like a perfect storm if ya know what I mean

[shunshine] Do it right the first time, I like that.

[tlm724] Abadi is working as fast as he can though, can you imagine his mind must go 24/7 with SO MANY things that have to be addressed and then fixed ! I have lost track there is so much

[shunshine] Poor man, its alot to deal with.

[tlm724] yeah but he is doing it *hallelujah*

[raindrop1] well they can’t be doing stupid stuff like decreasing the tariffs for Jordan

[shunshine] *hallelujah* yes he is.

[tlm724] raindrop1 yeah they can because Jordan is going to increase their trade at a discount price, you gotta look at the whole deal, one hand is washing the other, it works out in the end

[shunshine] thats right

[raindrop1] well use soap…not sand!!!!!  

[tlm724] raindrop1 lol good one

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Abadi economic adviser likely not to fall in oil prices below $ 55-60 rate 

[tlm724] Iraq is losing more than a billion dollars a year with each drop of $ single in the price of a barrel of oil

[tlm724] so with every drop of one dollar in the price of oil Iraq loses a billion dollars a year say the oil dropped by 40 dollars a barrel then they lose 40 Billion a year ! No wonder they are scrambling for a solution !

[cat] they weren’t complaining when the price was over 100 dollars 

[tlm724] thats right they weren’t cat, they were loving life, not so much now but you want to know the good news?

[cat] tlm724 yeppers 

[tlm724] it is technical issues now NOT bickering among the blocs !
 
[tlm724] because you know the the blocs can mess up a picnic    

[tlm724] so onward we go !

[tlm724] could be worse is what I’m saying and the  Kurds are happy    

[cat] yep

http://www.bondladyscorner.com/t107812-morning-news-comments-12-20-2014

KTFA’s Backdoc & Frank: “Liberating Mosul Is Next”

Post by backdoc » December 20th, 2014, 1:04 am  •  [Post 66]

What needs to happen next in Iraq—liberating Mosul  By David L. Phillips

Kurdish peshmerga recently opened a corridor to Mt. Sinjar, rescuing 10,000 Yazidis under siege by the Islamic State. Liberating Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city, is next. 

Kurds will be asked to help, but Arab Sunnis and tribes from the Nineveh plains must take the lead. 

Emrah Yorulmaz | Anadolu Agency | Getty Images

Peshmerga fighters departed from the Zommar district arrive in the Sinun town of Sinjar district of Mosul, to fight against Islamic State of Iraq and Levant, in Iraq on December 19, 2014.
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Atheel al-Nujaifi, Governor of Nineveh Province, was one of the last to leave Mosul after ISIS stormed the city on June 10, 2014. During our recent meeting in Erbil, al-Nujaifi described his strategy for engaging Arab Sunnis and tribal sheikhs to defeat ISIS.

Nujaifi envisions Nineveh’s exiled police and security services taking the lead. Tribal sheikhs and Arabs displaced by ISIS would also join the battle.

“As soon as we take some villages,” maintains Nujaifi, “people inside Mosul will join us.” Up to 1 million Arabs displaced by the conflict “have no aim in life but returning to their homes.”

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Sunni tribal leaders are reluctant to publicly pledge support. They are worried about reprisals against their brethren living under ISIS control. Still, “Most tribes oppose ISIS,” insists Nujaifi.”They have no loyalty to ISIS.” If the Arab tribes are paid, I believe they will fight.

Many tribal sheikhs welcomed Islamic State fighters when they first arrived. Iraq’s Arab Sunni minority, which enjoyed favor under Saddam Hussein, deeply resented the polarizing politics of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. Disenfranchised and marginalized, they saw ISIS as a liberation force.

Today, they chafe under the Islamic State’s strict interpretation of Islam. Nujaifi insists they are ready to turn on ISIS.

Establishing a National Guard is the core of Nujaifi’s plan. The National Guard would be comprised of Nineveh’s security services, who fled ISIS’s advance.

While endorsing legislation establishing the National Guard, he wants Shiite militias to be disbanded. All security forces should be established by law.

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Shiite militias arose after Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani issued a religious edict (“fatwa”) calling for Shiites to protect Iraq’s Shia shrines from the Islamic State.

Many appear to have links to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Council. They operate outside Baghdad’s control. In the wake of Iraq’s sectarian civil war, many have committed crimes and atrocities against Sunnis.

Nujaifi wants help from the United States. “We need weapons, training, and air strikes,” says Nujaifi. However, Washington is reluctant. It only offers training and equipment through Iraq’s central government.

Fighters must be carefully vetted before weapons are provided. After the Iraqi Army’s Mosul garrison collapsed in June, local police fled abandoning weapons to Islamic State forces.

Mosul is a city of more than 1 million people. US air strikes will have limited impact. Expect a bloody battle with fierce street-to-street fighting.

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The Iraqi Army seems to lack motivation and capacity. Maliki gutted the army of professional soldiers, replacing them with Shiite cronies. It will take time before the armed forces are ready for combat. 

Iraqi Kurds also seem reluctant to join the battle. Mosul is not their fight. Though the Kurds provided sanctuary to Arabs fleeing ISIS, there is a history of animosity between Kurds and Arab Sunnis. 

Arab Sunnis and Arab tribes must bear the brunt. Kurds and other Iraqis may participate in a supporting role, but only after Sunnis show unity and resolve. 

Commentary by David L. Phillips, director of the Program on Peace-building and Human Rights at Columbia University’s Institute for the Study of Human Rights. 

He served as a senior adviser and foreign- affairs experts to the State Department. His new book is “The Kurdish Spring: A New Map for the Middle East.”     http://www.cnbc.com/id/102285759

Post by Frank26 » December 20th, 2014, 1:30 am  •  [Post 68]  Yes Sir. 

Two weeks before Mosul was known to many we said on Your CC ……….. NEWSHOUNDS : Pay attention to Mosul ….. It is next….. Look for articles on this. 

Hmmm……… Indeed. Yet as a TEAM we are past this now. NEXT is intriguing.  KTFA,  Frank