Category: Dinar Recaps

Bits and Pieces on a VERY Quiet Saturday Afternoon

Stage3Alpha:

Sem > Vinman  I think the codes being activated and delivered by the treasury is the same as loaded.  Correct Vinman?   Codes, I believe, are sent to people with chipped cards that they have to swipe to activate part of the system.  The admiral has one of these cards. 

WILDDUCK > Nope codes go to the banks to activate rates on currency screens. Admiral is done. Card swiping Is mythical legend. Unless it is at they players club at Harrah to qualify for the lobster buffet

R.V. / GCR October 25, 2014 at 1:37pm As of right now we are still waiting for the witness of the release of funds to the western hemisphere…………………………stay tuned Today should be the day!……Timbers
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JM0603 > Rumors Zim not in first basket. All smoke?

Ck Collings > AJM0603 JC told me that 4 currencies are in 1st basket! It is smoke!

WILDDUCK > Ck Collings    Correct

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R.V. / GCR October 25, 2014 at 5:20pm Since you want to know what happened I will tell you the truth. The bank- wells fargo did have an issue …not with a button but someone trying to break into a back door.   And since then they have fixed this issue and its on track again….

What seems to be the biggest problem besides you new millionaires is they the bad guys have been told to find the money they stole or they face jail time.

This was the order by the world court Judge and they are running out of time……happy Timber days…

The admiral is still due in before the Forex open. still looking good as far as the rest of the roll out of your new wealth……………….Happy Timberdays

OilRat > R.V. / GCR Finally, some common sense! I’m guessing you are referring to “back door” as hacking the system?

Marc > OilRat A ‘back door’ usually refers to a hidden ‘entry point’ to a program. It doesn’t require difficult hacking, one just needs the procedure to access the program at that ‘unusual’ address in the program. 

T.O.T > R.V. / GCR The question that comes to mind is what will stop them from doing the same thing tomorrow or the next day?

R.V. / GCR > T.O.T There are so many folks watching the systems right now its a 24 hour on guard situation lets just relax and watch the workers finish this thing so we can here RACE YOU TO THE BANK……………………..Roar Timber

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Austin-Powers-For-PM > R.V. / GCR Any thoughts on Wethrin saying no RV this weekend?

R.V. / GCR > Austin-Powers-For-PM the country of iraq is still on task to pay their bills on monday as far as what we have heard.

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Posted by BaNDiTo.RoX on October 25, 2014 at 2:37pm

Special / leaders of political blocs are negotiating to end debate and approve oil and gas law HCL

10/25/2014

Baghdad-Iraq-Presse -25 October / October revealed the Commission on oil and energy parliamentary, on Saturday, for the negotiations conducted by the leaders of political blocs represented in the House of Representatives to end the controversy regarding the oil and gas law and approval.

The committee member said MP Hussein by l / Iraq Press / that “negotiations were under way, these days, between the heads of the blocks to get to the final version of the draft law of oil and gas and an end to the dispute of oil between the federal government and the Kurdistan Regional Government constant since the year two thousand and seven.”

Added by, that “the Commission on oil and energy in addition to the political parties concerned as well as the joint committees between Baghdad and Erbil are trying as soon as possible the completion of the unification of three drafts in agreement with the Commission to pass the law commentator since two thousand and seven.”

 But he also said that “in the event of failure to reach a common draft of drafts that have been formulated in two thousand and seven draft developed by the previous government or the previous draft of the oil and energy will search the possibility of drafting a new oil and gas law satisfies all parties.”

Promised by oil and gas law, “the main gate to resolve the dispute between the federal government and the provincial government and the establishment of the Council of federal oil would end the disputes between the parties” Ended (1)

iraqpressagency.com


KTFA:

Frank26:
. … You may not understand it but tomorrow the match is struck


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truckersam :  then it takes A little time for the fire to start…thanks

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Frank26:  Hint…… Buy and Sell.

Once INTERNATIONAL at whatever rate ………. What do You think will see?

KTFA,  Frank…. MY LADIES will tell You on M’s CC ……. Not tomorrow.

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Sager:  How about I spare the anticipation…. This is not me being cocky… Just feel that we don’t have to wait until Monday to share something like this…unless you’re referring to something else.

On the cbi website, you now see buy and sell, but once international, you’ll see the cbi exactly like all other central banks in the world (just look at bis website)…. You’ll see an EXCHANGE rate instead …..This was shared by NOVA on one of your cc’s a few months ago.

And I definitely agree that it is significant…….Sager

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180degrees: 
Thank you for sharing, Sager! It’s VERY ENCOURAGING to learn each new piece of the jigsaw puzzle, as it falls into place.

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NOVA »  I Have Talked About It Many Times And Understand It Well! From Both Sides, The ISX and the CBI.

A Stock Exchange Can Not Buy & Sell Currency…… There Is A Buy Side And A Sell Side….. But For That To Work In XStream That Market Must Be Able To Exchange/Settle The Trade. All Trades Must Settle Thru A Financial Institution!!!

I Can Go On And On And On…. The Point Is, Its A-Paw USE!!!!!  Nova

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I4U
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[BigDog-OH] IMF Sets 0.05% Floor on Interest Rate on Special Drawing Right   http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-24/imf-sets-0-05-floor-on-interest-rate-on-special-drawing-right.html

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TNT:


Simile:  It’s now 2 more bankers that last week commited suicide

Another Deutsche Banker And Former SEC Enforcement Attorney Commits Suicide

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-25/deutsche-bank-lawyer-and-former-sec-enforcement-attorney-found-dead-apparent-suicide

Bits and Pieces Saturday Morning

SATURDAY INTEL UPDATE!!!   Posted by EXOGEN on October 25, 2014 at 9:45am

Guesses to Exogens Picture Clues/Intel:

DKRRT This is a roller coaster of information, the playing field is becoming more level, still a few obstacles, but rate is visible

DKRRT Coming to the end of our ride, but the new world bank is making the USA & global bankers angry and it’s a toss up when we see the first rate because of the uneven playing fields.

Vinman This roller coaster ride of different rates makes for an uneven playing field and is seesawing all over the place.

The UN is angry and the USA got caught.
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UN to vote today to fix the problem of all the different rates.

The US Treasury is finished activating codes and the codes have been delivered.

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Lonewolf
October 25, 2014 at 10:21am

Clues:The rollercoaster ride of up’s and down’s of the rate is showing an uneven playing field..

It’s up and down at the UN and the countries are angry at the US as they have been caught once again.

Countries are voting today at the UN to fix the problems and straighten out the numbers.

The UST is finished activating the codes and has delivered….

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D.K.C.
> EXOGEN Sociopaths trying to delay/stop the RV/GCR are ANGRY….Furious…Freaking Out?

HealthyDoc > EXOGEN They are pissed to the highest degree of pissedivity. Did I get it right?

Vinman:   Banksters and sociopaths are very angry.

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WitchiePoo
  Im sorry but the IMF has been working on this project for 2 decades. While anything CAN happen, I just cannot believe that there are all these zero hour changes. Any true and major deviations would have been addressed well before this. I don’t think there are any major changes from the original plan. I’m not going to ride this roller coaster anymore. It will happen just as planned, IMHO. 

Ron Burgundy
> WitchiePoo + 100!    IMO you are exactly correct!  It is unfolding and moving forward!  Just because it does not happen on some of the gurus arbitrary time line, does NOT mean that there are any “delays”!  It IS happening!!

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junktion October 25, 2014 at 10:14am   From JCR this morning…..more on twitter JCR3758
I received further confirmation from a highly reliable source that I trust that the rollover is underway now.

jcpneves
October 25, 2014 at 10:21am From JC@JCR3758  More and more of you are thinking independently, using your intuition and listening to your hearts. You are no longer easily deceived or distracted from the truth. No one who gained their blessings by dishonest means will be permitted to prevail.

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GET:

[.MikeH] 10-25-2014 Poppy3 …GOT A RUMOR FROM IRAQ THAT THE RATE WILL CHANGE NEXT WEEK SOMETIME?

WHO KNOWS…AT LEAST I KNOW THE SOURCE IS IN BAGDAD AND HE WAS TOLD THIS TWICE TODAY THAT INSIDE THE GREEN ZONE BUT DOES NOT KNOW THE ORIGINAL ORIGIN OF THE STATEMENT.

I HOPE IT TO BE TRUE LIKE ALL OF US BUT ONLY TIME WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH.

 [.MikeH] 10-25-2014 Millionday [Is the HCL done?] YES THE ISLAMIC BANKS HAVE ANNOUNCED THAT THEY ARE TAKING IRAQI BANKING OUT TO THE GLOBE AND ALSO THE HCL WAS REPORTED TO BE DONE — IT WAS IN MULTIPLE REPORTS — HOWEVER THE HCL IS NOW BEING CHANGED FOR ONE PROVINCE AND THEY HAVE STATED THAT IT IS VERY SMALL AND…THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON IT TODAY [FRIDAY].

[SO IT APPEARS THERE IS JUST A SMALL ADJUSTMENT AND EVERYONE WILL BE SATISFIED WITH THE HCL SO IF THE HCL IS AGREED ON AND ALL OF THE GOVERNMENT IS IN PLACE, IT SHOULD MOVE PRETTY QUICK, CORRECT?]

IT SURE DOES LOOK VERY ENCOURAGING WE CAN KNOW THAT — FULL GOI AND HCL AND CBI READY IS CERTAINLY NOT BAD NEWS FOR US.

 [Don’t they have to have some kind of reality rate to open the HCL to have enough money to pay the people?]

I WOULD SAY THIS — THE OIL FUNDS TO THE CITIZENS THAT IS PROMISED GOES TO ALL CITIZENS THAT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED FUNDS RIGHT?

ON THE SMART CARDS/VISA — THE THING IS THEY ARE NOT ALL IN IRAQ AND THE CARDS SHOULD BE USABLE ANYWHERE THEY ARE SO THEY WOULD NEED A REALITY RATE TO DISTRIBUTE FUNDS LOGICALLY.

THE HCL WILL BE FUNDED BY A REALITY RATE — NOT AN IMPOSED RATE.

TNT:

mdj “Rollout”?? – JCR3758 TWEET, 25 OCT @JCR3758: I received further confirmation from a highly reliable source that I trust that the rollover is underway now.#wearethepeople #KeepingItReal

Jerseyboysfaninmn
:  There are many in here who can easily wait without it causing havoc in their lives. There are others who are literally at the end of their rope and have tied so many knots in it and hung on that they are exhausted. It is my prayer that this weekend is it and we can all begin the new life that has been so anticipated.

Iko Ward :  Remember everyone, don’t put on your disappointment hat until Sunday at 5PM EST.   I realize I threw a little hopium out there but the real intent is to show us how close we are and how great we are.

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KTFA:


Cole101
:YOU WONT SEE ANY CHANGE ON THE 26th OR NEXT WEEK……….MARCH/APRIL OF 2015……..POSSIBILITY………NOTHING ANYTIME SOON……….ALL IMO….

Frank26:   You are entitled to this position.  It’s depressing ………. Suffocating and almost hopeless to the point of loneliness.

I do not ……….. Can not live this way.

IF ………….. We were not seeing such promise then I would consider going in Your boat of broken hearts.

But I do not see what You see.

Nothing.

I sincerely believe we are seeing the vital MR steps at their ending.

Kindly ……….. Do not consider my ISX 26th idea to be gospel.

More so like throwing grenades at the 26th.

In other words ……. If we go past 26th ……… I strongly do not feel it will be prolonged until the end of 2015.

Your pattern of opinions is well established at KTFA.

Maybe not popular ……….. But always respected………… As You respect mine.

BTW ……….. Notice how the conscious of the GOI for the LAST FOUR DAYS has talked about the lifting of the 000. Be it via lies or truth. A needless denial brought on by a DEFENSIVE POSTURE.

Now that’s a position I can accept as ……….. Human Nature.

They are running out of ways to hide ……….. A Truth.

TINK and I spend the whole day with our children at the Zoo today !!!

Long trip …… Long day ………… Long memories.

Aloha Dear Friends ……… I will look in every hour……..

KTFA,   Frank

Millionday Friday Night News Part 2

Millionday News 10/24/14  Part 2
    Welcome to dinarupdates.com for news time with Millionday!
  

    Millionday: NOTE — IT NEEDS SOME SIMPLE MODIFICATIONS
    Millionday: NOTE — THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE WORKING ON

    Millionday: The deputies stressed that differences of oil between Arbil and Baghdad will end according to Articles 111 and 112 of the Iraqi Constitution, as stipulate that oil and gas belongs to all Iraqis,

 and that the federal government in coordination with the oil-producing provinces are drawn oil policy strategy to achieve the greatest benefit for the Iraqi people.

    The draft law of oil and gas on the table heads of blocs.
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     Millionday: SO THEY ARE WORKING ON IT NOW — ALONG WITH THE SPEED WE HAVE BEEN SEEING WITH ALL THEY HAVE HAD GOING ON IT APPEARS –

    faith1: could that translation have meant bloc heads ? sorry i’m not right

    Millionday: THAT WAS LAST YEAR    SMILE

    slh5282: SO IT APPEARS THERE IS JUST A SMALL ADJUSTMENT AND EVERYONE WILL BE SATISFIED WITH THE HCL SO IF THE HCL IS AGREED ON AND ALL OF THE GOVERNMENT IS IN PLACE, IT SHOULD MOVE PRETTY QUICK, CORRECT?

    Millionday: IT SURE DOES LOOK VERY ENCOURAGING WE CAN KNOW THAT — FULL GOI AND HCL AND CBI READY IS CERTAINLY NOT BAD NEWS FOR US — SMILE

    Millionday: I READ A REPORT THE YESTERDAY ABOUT THE ATTACKS OF ISIS –

 THEY STATED THAT THEY AD GONE INTO A COUPLE BANKS AND ROBBED THEM — AND THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE BANKS HAD SO MUCH MONEY IN THEM — THEY WERE LOADED — SMILE

    carpet: Don’t they have to have some kind of reality rate to open the HCL

    to have enough money to pay the people

    Millionday: I WOULD SAY THIS — THE OIL FUNDS TO THE CITIZENS THAT IS PROMISED GOES TO ALL CITIZENS THAT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED FUNDS RIGHT? ON THE SMART CARDS/VISA –

 THE THING IS THEY ARE NOT ALL IN IRAQ AND THE CARDS SHOULD BE USABLE ANYWHERE THEY ARE SO THEY WOULD NEED A REALITY RATE TO DISTRIBUTE FUNDS LOGICALLY

    Millionday: THE HCL WILL BE FUNDED BY A REALITY RATE — NOT AN IMPOSED RATE

    clay: if isis robbing banks y rv

    Millionday: SO THE FUNDS THEY HAVE NEED TO BE EXCHANGED AND THE ENTIRE ECONOMIC REFORMS WITH THE BANKING REFORMS ARE DONE AND IRA IS INTERNATIONALLY RECOGINZED

SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY MAKE GLOBAL MARKET FUNDS WITH THEIR INDUSTRIAL ACTIVATION

AND AGRICUTURAL ACTIVATION THAT IS COMPLETE — THE NEW DINAR IS SECURE AND THEY WILL HAVE A TIMELINE LISTED TO EXCHANGE

    Millionday: BRB WITH MORE

    Millionday: BRUSSELS: French President Francois Hollande said Friday that operations will be stepped up against ISIS in Iraq, which must be “struck hard”.

    “The pace of our actions is going to speed up. We have collected all the information necessary,” Hollande said, when asked about recent French operations in Iraq as part of a US-led coalition air campaign against ISIS fighters.

    Millionday: SO THE 120 HITS THIS MORNING WAS JUST WARMING UP — NOW THE TROOPS ARE COMING IN WITH GREAT SPEED

    hotbunny: Or we still in a good window up to the 31st of this month tks

    Millionday: WE ARE IN A GREAT WINDOW FROM THE MOMENT THAT CBI STATED THEY WERE READY AFEW DAYS AGO

    Millionday: I MEAN THEY STATED IT IN INK — SO I WOULD HAVE TO SAY IT IS A GREAT PLACE FOR US TO BE — WE HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE

    Millionday: OK BRB WITH MORE

    Millionday: MP for the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan Nawzad Messenger said Kuwait expressed its willingness to extinguish the debt owed by Iraq in the event that the Security Council to complete the legal procedures, noting that a delegation of the Kuwaiti National Assembly, will visit Iraq soon.

    Millionday: NOTE — WE SAW TODAY THAT IRAQ CAME BACK FROM KUWAIT TODAY AND HAD SOME KUWAITI REPRESENTATIVES WITH THEM –

    Millionday: NOTE — KUWAIT HAS STATED THAT THEY ARE PUTTING THE PAST BEHIND THEM AND ARE ALSO READY TO HAVE HUGE RELATIONS WITH IRAQ

    Millionday: According to the Messenger in a press statement today, seen by agency Nun news reporting, “said the Kuwaiti side told us during our recent visit to Kuwait within the parliamentary delegation, that Kuwait is ready to extinguish what owed by Iraq of debt,

but the Security Council is that impedes the matter until now because of legal and technical procedures, noting that Kuwaiti investment suggested opening the doors in front of the Kuwaiti companies as an alternative to the amount of the remaining six billion dollars owed by Iraq

    Millionday: NOTE — THEY ARE STATING THAT KUWAIT IS WILLING TO FORGET SIX BILLION DOLLARS BY TRADE AGREEMENTS

    Millionday: He explained that the Messenger of Kuwait also expressed its willingness to aid the displaced and displaced Iraqis in all Iraqi provinces,

 through the adoption of non-governmental organizations take it upon themselves to expedite the relief of displaced families, which is now under the threat of rain at the beginning of the winter season.

    Millionday: NOTE — THEY ARE EVEN WILLING TO COME AND HELP THE DISPLACED FAMILIES — WOW

    Millionday: He pointed out that it was agreed between the delegation of the Iraqi parliament and the Kuwaiti National Assembly on the visit of a delegation from the National Assembly of Iraq in the coming days to promote parliamentary cooperation frameworks in order to serve the common interests of the two brotherly peoples.

    Millionday: SO THE PROMOTION IN THE “COMING DAYS” IS THE FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT — THEY HAVE MANY INCLUDING WITH THE US — THEY ALL INCLUDE TRADE AND AGREEMENTS — WHOOPOW

    Millionday: COOPERATION AND KUWAIT AND IRAQ IN THE SAME STATEMENT IS MANY YEARS IN THE MAKING AND WHY THEY WERE UNDER SANCTIONS —- SMILE

    Boomshakalaka: how much money do you have to have to forgive someone 6 billion?

    Millionday: MUCHO    SMILE    THAT REGION IS LOADED

    Faith1: forgive the debt ,, if the doors are opened in front of Kuwaiti companies ??

    Millionday: NOTE — THEY ARE STATING THAT KUWAIT IS WILLING TO FORGET SIX BILLION DOLLARS BY TRADE AGREEMENTS

    Millionday: noting that Kuwaiti investment suggested opening the doors in front of the Kuwaiti companies as an alternative to the amount of the remaining six billion dollars owed by Iraq.

     Millionday: NOTE — THAT IS THE WAY IT IS TRANSLATING –

 IT WOULD MEAN OPENING THE DOORS OF TRADE WITH THEIR (KUWAIT) COMPANIES –

 THAT WOULD BRING TRADE AND JOBS AND ALSO A BROTHERHOOD TO HELP THEM BOTH

    Millionday: THERE HAVE BEEN MANY YEARS OF ISSUES –

HEADACHES AND PROBLEMS AND MEETINGS — ALL COSTLY ANYWAY YOU LOOK AT IT

    Millionday: SO WHY NOT JUST MAKE SOME MONEY TOGETHER ? — SOUNDS GOOD

    Millionday: THIS IS HUGE

    Millionday: ALL ISSUES RESOLVED

    wmawhite Millionday: True…….but I still wonder what Kuwait gets from the agreement that is worth the $6 billion…..

    Millionday: I WOULD SAY PROBABLY A GREAT TRADE ARRANGEMENT IN SOME OF THE INDUSTRY THEY CAN BOTH BENEFIT FROM — IRAQ DOESNT JUST GIVE ANYTHING AWAY — OR KUWAIT AS WE HAVE SEEN — SMILE

    Millionday: LET ME MAKE SURE I DIDNT MISS ANYTHING THAT IS ACTION

    BRB

    wmawhite: Yep,…………just wondering exactly how Kuwait recovers the $6 billion.

    Millionday: NEWSTIME IS DONE

    Millionday: WE WILL SEE EVERYONE FOR NEWSTIME AT 730 EST TOMORROW AND TRY IT AGAIN

    http://www.dinarupdates.com/observer/

    http://www.dinarupdates.com/blog/

http://www.dinarupdates.com/showthread.php?14657-Millionday-News-10-24-14

Friday Night Dinarland Chatter

Stage3alpha:

R.V. / GCR October 24, 2014 at 6:22pm SECRET i WAS JUST TOLD TUESDAY BANK……FROM SOURCE

THE REPUBLIC IS STANDING UP TO THE CABAL AND THEIR EBOLA SCARE…NOW

HAPPY TIMBERDAYS………………………………………………………………..PT

R.V. / GCR October 24, 2014 at 6:57pm  WHY TUESDAY?….We have been told of select contract exchanges and some  transactions  ll begin as early as this evening continuing thru this weekend.

We are also advised that group exchanges are to begin payout after 48 hour hold from treasury to the paymaster level along with contract payments on TUESDAY.
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WitchiePoo > R.V. / GCR Actually I was told that those “select contract exchanges and transactions” have been ongoing for quite some time. I also heard that the hold has previously been lifted and it can go at any time. I think we will be in the banks well before.

Underdog >
R.V. / GCR So I can only guess the dealers and banks will stop selling currency and reserves if this 48hrs hold was initiated? Witchy poo says she heard no 48hr. Hold….better for us in going to bank sooner than later.

R.V. / GCR
> Underdog I was told that the admiral has not gone in yet that the codes are logged into the treasury this has not started yet they are expecting for the admiral to go in between now and sunday at 6:00 pm is what the assumption is and when he signs thats when the 48 hour hold will start

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Austin-Powers-For-PM > R.V. / GCR Here’s the question.  Will we have definitive proof of this happening before Tuesday?  Maybe, say, on Sunday morning when the new ISX goes live with it’s updated software?

WitchiePoo > Austin-Powers-For-PM I dont think we will have any “proof”. I think we will make our appts prior to any of that being visible to John Q Public

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Don    Zimbabwe: Govt, IMF in Talks – Oct 23,2014 -
http://allafrica.com/stories/201410231491.html

Dave > Don Yea I read somewhere they wanted to use only their own currency .I guess they hopping on the band wagon go rv !

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I4U:

[pursuitoftruth] Well JCR had a tweet. He left TNT some time ago but he was on his intel team. I am not sure why some of his intel team split.

JCR said in a tweet. JC ‏@JCR3758 4:08 p.m. est – Four days ago I said GOI fully seated, Budget done, HCL ready.

Glad to hear others now getting same Intel. The 2014 budget was passed with old rate. The 2015 is completed and will be passed this weekend with the new loaded rate. pt 1

The rollout to the public should start by Tues and possibly be announced Mon. Gov debts and special programs being done now.

Get ready and be grateful for what you have. Don’t get caught up in the hype. Up to you who you listen to info here is free.

Everything is being done now..live. Make sure you hold on to your currency. Protect your money and future. Your in control. More to come as confirmed. – pt 2!

[pursuitoftruth] I pass this on because I really like JCR. We all need the encouragement to keep our spirits up and it is good to hear from others.

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[BigDog-OH] China Pushes Regional Bank Without South Korea, Australia   http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-24/china-pushes-regional-bank-without-south-korea-australia.html

[xyz] Three major nations absent as China launches World Bank rival in Asia Reuters Australia, Indonesia and South Korea skipped the launch of a China-backed Asian infrastructure bank on Friday    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/three-major-nations-absent-china-launches-world-bank-035238571–business.html


KTFA:

Frank26:  Yes we seek to see if the ISX comes back online Sunday…….. Or not…….. Then also to see if they have a new rate.

But You MUST remember …….. The ISX has NOTHING to do with the raising of the dinar’s value. ONLY the CBI.

 Even if no rate Sunday …….. REALIZE that the ISX is now ALSO among a list of prepared and readiness for an increase in the IQD value. All of this in an envelope of ……… STABILITY … SECURITY … and our TROOPS … Pure Lava !!!

Love You KTFA FAMILY ……… KTFA,    Frank

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Showgirl : Backdoc, I agree with you that we can all help each other with the new financial reality coming. Since we were attracted to an investment that most people called a scam, we were already thinking outside the traditional financial planning.

That is the reason I am attracted to your postings because you think outside the traditional box and look at the complete global picture  …

Keep up with your knowledgeable postings.   Showgirl

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backdoc » October 24th, 2014, 6:08 pm   THANK YOU

THE NEW REALITY I MENTION IS THE PROCESS OF HOW THE IMF RESTRUCTURES THE SDR FORMAT.

IF CHINA COMES INTO THE SDR FORMAT LIFE CHANGES AS WE KNOW IT SINCE THE EMPIRE AS WE KNOW IT CHANGES!

WALKINGSTICK HAS SENT US PLENTY OF INFO ON THIS NEW REALITY COMING BY EVIDENCE OF CHINA’S CURRENCY TRADING NOW ALMOST WORLD WIDE.

ALSO THE LATEST OF CHINAS BOND GROWTH AS EVIDENCED BY BONDS IN EUROPE AND NOW CANADA.

WHEN CHINA RESTATES ITS GOLD RESERVES NEXT YEAR I EXPECT BIG CHANGES. THESE CHANGES AFFECTS WHERE MONEY GOES ON THE GLOBE AND WHY!!

DOC

Friday Afternoon Dinarland Chatter

FRIDAY INTEL UPDATE!!!!  Posted by EXOGEN on October 24, 2014 at 2:44pm

Guesses to Exogen’s Picture Intel/Clues:


EXOGEN October 24, 2014 at 2:50pm

THE LARGEST WEAPONS SALE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Linnea > EXOGEN The cabal is selling their weapons because they have no central banks anymore, and they NEED MONEY!!!

Dr. Mark This sale occurred almost 45 days ago………the bill is now due to be paid

Aloha Leslie October 24, 2014 at 3:12pm

The Big Deal is War! That’s what they are trying to sell us, with ever increasing hype!…

Why? Because the debt is due and what better way to make money than through the sale of weapons and other war machinery!
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In order for Iraq to pay her bill (which is due), they have to have an internationally tradeable currency. 

Oil contracts signed.  (you give us weapons, we give you oil?)

Okay, now we have the Rothschilds (old and new) playing footsies with our politicians. Whoever controls the $$ supply controls the “empire.”

Negotiated bribery (kickbacks) from the Viet Nam war. 

Stock markets taking off like a rocket!!

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G T October 24, 2014 at 3:26pm

Answers to Clues…..

Iraq bought Equipment for their War with ISIS……THAT BILL IS DUE & MUST BE PAID In DINAR (Currently NO PUBLIC VALUE…..COULD THEY HAVE TWO SETS OF BOOKS TO Be PAYING THESE DEBTS)???

Contracts regarding Fuel have Been Negotiated (Weapons For Oil)???

Rothchild’s have been PLAYING THE KICKBACK GAME with Democrats & Republicans (Probably regarding the Upcoming Election & MARKET GOUGING & MANIPULATION)!!!

We Have Liftoff

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Dr. Mark > What I believe is being shared is to understand the larger picture involved and how the war machine works.  Do I like it…of course not.  But that is how our “current” world operates.

Now, as to the RV…all of these activities require money.  Money to be paid and money to be made…that’s what drives this whole crazy mess.

As to our personal investment…..Iraq has HUGE bills to pay and they cannot do it at 1166…the numbers just don’t add up.  

If Kuwait sold  something worth $1 billion dollars in Kuwait dinars…….Iraq would need to pay them over 4 TRILLION dollars at the current IQD current rate.  It doesn’t work!

My take…and again, just my opinion:  If you all remember your history currency always gets deflated in war….then the war is won….then the country is rebuilt….and the currency is re-instated/re-inflated.  That is how it works.  

Well, look at the Iraq cycle.  They went to war…currency deflated…war is over….countries assisted in the rebuilding of the country….what happens next????

If anything you have learned there is a cycle……..and, we are at the end…..of this one!  IMO

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wilbur grodan GUESSTIMATE:

The REFORMED dinar will be 100% gold backed as has been STATED
ONE GRAM per DINAR

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RV/GCR: all market indicators point to Monday. I am not at liberty to say more than the stock exchange is due to come back on Monday and there are 28 countries that use the same system, and all of them are international countries

Why would they allow one country to join that’s not International?

 IRAQ is about to be INTERNATIONAL according to contracts that we are seeing in the background… the rate is what we are not certain of yet….be blessed thank you… you’re the best.

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Dinar Updates:


I would think if Kuwait is at $3.58 or so, Iraq would be the same or higher at some point.]

[Poppy3]  YEP CLOSE TO KUWAIT, AT SOME POINT WILL BE HIGHER.YEP CLOSE TO KUWAIT, AT SOME POINT WILL BE HIGHER.

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TNT:

[BlackKarma] So from what I’ve read in the transcripts is that we are still in limbo and have no idea when this may take off. Next week or next year. All of the things that were supposed to set of the rv haven’t and at this rate they could sit on it for however long they want. All the ptb have been paid. Iraq is using the new rate to purchase what they need. We are still out in the back 40. Pretty much the same as we have been for months and years. Bummer. :|

JMO:  Kuwait Dinar RV Evidence in the NY Times – 3/25/1991

Those of you looking for the evidence that Kuwait actually RV’d in 1991 can look here –

 http://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/25/world/after-the-war-no-electricity-but-kuwait-reopens-its-banks.html.  

 In the 6th paragraph, the article reports the rate.

John MacHaffie:

Friday, October 24, 2014   Goodbye To the US of A corporation

If you go to the following Puerto Rico Corporation website, the United States of America (the corporation) has been cancelled.  Either go to this web site, at the link click for translation to english:

https://prcorpfiling.f1hst.com/CorpInfo/CorporationInfo.aspx?c=73-122&m=oce

The corporate USA has been cancelled and the bad guys are no longer in charge.  Read below – “STATUS – CANCELLED.” 

Also, the United States of America corporate govt was registered with the Secretary of State (of Delaware) as a corporation defined as 100 square miles of Washington, DC. 

The Secretary of State not only cancelled the corporate status of the United States of America, they also deleted the corporation from their database. 

Just more signs the Republic is taking command from the corporation.  Take notice with these corporate registrations the names are in all CAPS. 

Posted by John MacHaffie

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KTFA:


pdids » In my opinion , there has been much debate as to when the expected revalue of the Dinar will occur. When one reads all of the News posts from the various Iraqi News Agencies ,what can be confusing for many is where within the contents of these articles, they speak of this year or before next year, that I believe that they are referring to their own Islamic Calendar and not ours.

Just like when they refer to next Thursday, they actually mean this Thursday. We in the USA on the other hand , next Thursday, means next week.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for them to be using our Calendar or any other of the many World Calendars, nor should there be, as they have their own.

Remember that these articles written in Iraq, are read by millions of folks on the internet and some of them have their own World Calendars that differ not only from ours but Iraq’s as well..

For everyone’s information, according to a recent estimate, there are about 40 World Calendars used in the the world today, all with various beginning and end dates.

So, I am hopeful that when The Ladies, Walkingstick, Delta and other researchers, refer to articles that state this year , that means it is before the beginning of the new Islamic Iraqi year which is October 26th.

 So, lets all be hopeful that this theory of mine is on target and that when all that is supposed to happen over the next few days does and that we can then all rejoice with our new wealth.

White Hats Fact Check 125.6  Part 9

A Continuation Of Reader Comments Brought From White Hats   Part 9 of 10

Fact Check 125.6 Parts 5 — 8   begins here  LINK    Parts 1–4  begins here LINK

 Andrew says:    Guys, go through and read again the OWoN info. The large notes issue refers to Dinar, since they have been overprinted they MAY not be allowed.

Point 2 is that since money launderers and drug dealers use 500k dong notes, make sure you have proof of funds history.

I didn’t see anywhere that 500k dong notes won’t be accepted: they are legit currency – they will just need to be verified as bona fide notes, as will all that is lodged for exchange at the bank. If you’re not a pimp there’s no need to worry.
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    Gazza says:         Andrew    With all respect I believe owon did warn the 500k notes could be a prob. I’m sure in one place he says “but will there be a maket for 500k notes?”… that right there is a liquidity issue and a massive red flag to dong holders.

If banks won’t make a market to buy our 500k’s off of us at the rv then 90%+ of us on here will be stuck with plastic toilet paper. Owon seems to be saying for all anyone knows there just may not be a buyer of our larger notes as they will be worth too much.

Not sure what all his drug money pimp laundering talk was about. Why a drug dealer would use 500k notes is beyond me. Surely he would use the same notes as the guy buying food in McDonalds?? I dunno anymore I’m deeply confused about what to do now.

sitkaevenstar says:           jamesdarren if the vmd does pan out at 47 cents and american banks will not take the 500k notes well it will be a nice vacation in vietnam with change left over good luck.

Seg says:      WHA,  Trading the notes now could have big tax consequences down the road (LTvs ST capital gains) personally I am waiting for clarification

Green Lantern says:    

http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/10/18/vote-all-you-want-the-secret-government-won-change/jVSkXrENQlu8vNcBfMn9sL/story.html?p1

“Meet the new boss…same as the old boss…”

Gazza says:         Tony   It’s clear this dream is turning a bit sour for some of us as the reality of the hurdles comes clear. Banks will put numerous stumbling blocks in the way of this thing, not least this latest “500k note” issue.

Has your WH contact mentioned, or could you ask, re:the 500k note issue. If banks are gonna play these games then maybe I shouldn’t be in this game after all.

Seems petty and stupid to not exchange legit documented notes of any size and I’m already worn out before the game even heats up.

So just asking, please could you ask for a little verification on this specific issue because it is one of the major hurdles now.

I don’t expect a rock solid answer from a WH with a crystal ball, but a “likelihood/genuine concern” type answer would really help us all.  Thanking you in advance.

    whitehatauxiliaries says:   I have already made plans to seek further clarity on this.

    Remember, these are very complex issues involved in this process. Very complex. The landscape is shifting all the time, it seems. What is true one week may not be the next.

It is getting harder and harder to convey information and not see it change again within a few weeks.

    We will do what we can, but I can give no assurances that any further information is available.

    Please do not make assumptions. NOTHING has been released that has made the 500K dong notes worthless. But, from what I took away from the information released, be ready to prove up your good standing and your history of funds should you walk in with a 500K note and see that it’s now worth six figures US, or thereabouts.

That was the main warning given regarding such notes. Nothing was said about them being worthless at this time.

        jamesdarren says:        I don’t understand why it would be different to walk in with 8 500k notes totaling 4 mil VS walking in with 40 100k notes…. or right on down the line….

If I have 4 mil Dong what will it matter what size the note is…. the total amount would be the issue, right?….everyone is going to know that PRE RV the large notes were needed and used to keep from sending out a truckload of DONG for every transaction….

 there will be a ton of large notes being exchanged…. Tony, I know you just said you are looking for more verification but just thought I would ask for calm discussion… thanks for all you do….

        whitehatauxiliaries says:     I agree, calm discussion is preferred.

        I think we may be running into the x-factor here. We cannot possibly know the substance of the talks going on at high levels that may affect the higher denominations.

All I know is we have not been told that they are 100% worthless, or going to be. Not yet, anyway.

        We have been advised to make sure we can establish provenance and history, and that could indeed prove problematic.

        But, I am thinking out loud here. The powers that be in London and in the USA KNOW FULL WELL that certain hoi polloi hold these currencies, and I am sure they must know that picking them like chicken over provenance may come across a little iron fisted,

 and unreasonable, especially when all they did was try to make something along speculative lines – not any worse than those scumbags that sold off ***house mortgage paper to everyone before it crashed the banks in the USA, and then got bailed?

        Let the holders of dongs, etc, present themselves like anyone else, and stand on their clean record to allow an exchange. That’s fine with me.   Hey, I want maaaa lick I wuz promised! LOL

        HIW says:     WHA,        Maybe you can get confirmation on the Dragon Family takeover of the Fed, IMF and BIS too. I have seen this on Fulford and several You Tube videos.

It’s interesting. If the World Bank did in fact deny BK, then I’m curious who owes the debt now?

        Income taxes are designed to pay interest on debt that is basically not ours. I’m curious if this takeover is true, are the owners of the Fed now responsible for that debt they created and will the Dragon Family start liening the assets they have stolen and robbed off the backs of the American citizens.

        whitehatauxiliaries says:     Well, I am not going to call in to ask the “Ambassador” any questions if that is what you mean. I already received some feedback on him from our WH contact, and I cannot repeat it here. LOL

        Are we supposed to believe that this hidden bloodline man’s family came out of hiding after thousands of years, and chose as their path of publicly coming out a seminar speaker who let a New Zealand con job pull a “private dong exchange” on him and his legions?

        I am sorry, but I have my doubts about this. Dave does NOT impress me as a cracker jack judge of people, and I have to also conclude that any legitimate elder family members would not conduct their affairs in so public a fashion.

        I hope I am wrong, and I do not disparage the good will message of hope. But, I am not in a position to be so trusting with granting loyalty or believing something based on a voice and a claim to title.

        HIW says:      Actually, I agree with you about Dave Schmidt. I really have no reference with regards to the ambassador nor did I want you to call in to the show, but I also read it on Benjamin Fulford yesterday. While he is wrong often too, he has interesting stuff that does seem to go along with things that are happening.

        My thought was if you are checking in to seek further clarity on the dong issue that you could ask about this for confirmation.

Paul L Davis says:   It looks like Dave Schmidt online radio show tomorrow night will be interesting. The video at this link is well done re expectations for the show. Since the Red Dragon Family Ambassador said last week; that they had gained control over the IMF and the Fed. I said to myself. ‘ we will now find out if the ambassador is real and who he says he is.   We do live in interesting times. :-)

http://thesedonaconnection.wordpress.com/

    Andrew says:   Ben Fulford also discusses it. I have also read that the common and statute courts are denying the US Fed’s plea for bankruptcy filing (so they can retain their assets). Looks like they are entering receivership. Let’s see…

    http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2014/10/20/benjamin-fulford-10-20-14-did-the-dragon-family-take-control-of-the-federal-reserve-board/

        whitehatauxiliaries says:   Based on pending contact and fresh updates, FC 125.7 may be coming soon……just to relieve thread navigation issues, especially for mobile users.  More later…

    whitehatauxiliaries says:    Although I personally have no proof, I am sure that the constant flood of hyper pumped dinar RV news eventually will be traced back to those profiting from sales of dinar.

That is not to say all dealers are involved. The existence of so much consistent and continuously inaccurate calling of the RV is either based on high levels of corruption or stupidity. It certainly cannot be from anything honest or intelligent.

      Gloria Madison says:               So I was away for a bit, and come back and see the flurry of discussion on the VND, While many times info/content is brought over from the OWoN site, no one thought to bring this. Perhaps it will settle your fears/anxiety and put you back on track of what’s really important FC 115.

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 2014 AT 2:58:00 AM MDT With Dongs, they will have to come up with a solution. Let’s wait and see. Be cautiously optimistic.

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Bob D says:         500k dong is worth USD$25, so yes it makes sense to me that ordinary people have them. Sure, after a revalue they may be taken off the street with almost every other current bill amount, but I can’t see why they would be invalid. Have your proof of legitimate purchase.

I am speculating in these currencies as a hedge to the entire western economic system (with foreign stocks, metals, sovereign bonds too). I am not sure why owon cares if we speculate.

He seems to be angry about it. People speculate in currencies, futures, commodities, bonds etc every day. This is no different. There are no guarantees about any revalues (please don’t count on them!),

but there are none about the USD either….thanks for this website – there seem to be a lot of great people here! jmo             

    LP says:           Bob D, I wholeheartedly agree.   I still can’t fathom why some people mock those who have invested in these currencies in the hopes of profiting from their increase in value.

Why do they call them moochers and slackers looking for a free lunch? Why don’t they say the same thing about people who buy gold or stocks and bonds?

    In my view, when one buys a legitimate currency, whether exotic or commonly traded, from a legitimate dealer, one HAS EVERY RIGHT TO EXPECT that it’s both legitimate and exchangeable at whatever the prevailing rate happens to be at the time it’s exchanged.

    If I bought English pounds with USD, would it be “reasonable” for me to expect OR ACCEPT a bank saying, “Oh, sorry, mate, you’re a slacker/moron/sucker for buying pounds in the first place.

So what if the pound is worth more now? We owe you nothing! Buzz off now. There you go.

The pound has been overprinted and we’ve decided not to honor your little wad. Besides, old chap, you don’t deserve money– you’re poor.”

    Transactions of this kind are usually called embezzlement and considered crimes.

Put another way: If I know that the gold I sold you is only painted lead, you are NOT of low moral integrity because you believed me and bought it.

 Rather, I’m a crook who conned you twice– first, by selling you lead for gold and, second, by persuading you that it’s all your fault.

    If IQD and VND are legitimate CURRENCiES, then anyone should be able to buy, sell or speculate on their values and to profit or lose in the process, based strictly on the prevailing rates of exchange. Honoring legitimate currencies?

    Expecting legitimate currencies sold by legitimate banks to be honored as legitimate? I see nothing so whacky about that?

        Mathew says:            Thank you LP and Bob,        I was not going to comment on this farce (imo) but it has just been blown way out on a limb so thank you for the down to earth common sense approach.

        Again IMO: the ISO 4217 standard setup to establish internationally recognised codes would quite literally have to be re-written in all systems for this idea to carry on. There would now need to be a “face value denomination” standard and EVERYBODY would have to be re-taught about currency values.

Not just currency exchange businesses and everyone working in them but retail as well. That product costs 100 VND. Okay, here is some cash. Oh, I’m sorry, that 50 VND is only worth 40 because it is not valued the same way as those 20s.

Or rather: oh, we don’t accept those large notes any longer you have to go to the bank and exchange for new notes before you can buy that.

And in the latter case you have hundreds if not thousands of businesses still accepting the old notes for the old values because they didn’t get the “memo”.

Can you imagine the impact of such a thing? Can you imagine the 4T currency exchange business now dealing in not just the ISO 3 letter identifier but now also the denomination of the notes they want to trade for that pip?

 And different international values of the same ISO would launch a huge fedex boom of people sending bricks of currency around the world to “friends”. Is just make no logical sense.

        Not only do you create mass confusion but perhaps the larger danger is in the public losing trust in the entire financial industry (I am talking the 90% that are not in the know here).

Let’s face it the paper non-asset backed money only works because we TRUST that the face value is the face value and it has said value.

Throw that out the window overnight and you risk totally bankrupting the ability for the system to function in a common and very simple minded way for us sheep.

        I call BS but I mean that in the kindest way possible.

        Now, cancelling an old currency and introducing a new standard. ie. VND is gone and now we use VNN. That I can see but still you have to give people time to adjust or banks get bricks through the front windows. So you can fix the finite money problem by allowing people to do an even exchange. ie.

You have a $50 value worth of VND. That is equal to a $50 value worth of VNN. Here is your $50 worth of VNN. That is just a thought off the top of the old noggin but something like that makes much more common sense.

Over time currencies, that have been smashed by our loving leaders, would increase in value and there is your profit.

        As for banks kicking us around.

They are in business, just like all business, to make money. If there is a background check (may be mandatory for large exchanges) and it says you are a known crime element I would expect that you might be handled by the police long before bank employees would kick you to the curb.

And the police would confiscate the cash. Again, just some common sense.

        This was all IMO and off the cuff. In the case of war and sanctions smashing a currency, and said currency being reinstated to that country’s true asset backed value… who could possibly have all the answers? I’m no rothschild.

        naturalized citizen says:        I remember OWoN stating IMF having something to do with not honoring high denomination VND when its underline rate changes.

I also remember what Jim Willie said about BIS, the Central Bank of the Central Banks world wide located in Basel in the interviews he gave in the recent weeks, wanting to take a subordinate function in BRICS. “Give BIS the shit cleaning duties for chicken coops.”

So said Willie, and I feel the same way as he; IMF and BIS have no business making decisions for how the world finances should be shaped in the future.

 They enjoyed their prime and messed the whole thing for the entire world, so why should they be making decisions now? Willie said BIS has been trying to clean up their image for the past 30 years.

Sorry, it has not worked for me. If anything, I am totally appalled by the nation called Switzerland because it seems like a Satanists hideout with BIS in Basel and the Post Master General in Bern that keeps track of everything we do. (Remember what they say? Postmen know everything we do!).

 The Swiss people are allowed to posses guns to hide something, and I think the Post Master and BIS are the two major components to the secrets they want to keep hidden among many others which I have yet discover, but I have always had the feeling that the nation known Switzerland was “fake”.

If IMF keeps up with their deception campaigns, it, too, will become irrelevant in time.

LP says:   WHA/Tony,  When Bush, Sr. (it was he, correct?) first regulated dinar exchange domestically at eight brokerages, do you think he expected so many citizens to buy dinar or did he and his buds simply expect to cash out quietly when the time was ripe and keep walking?

Did they underestimate broker penchant for pumping? Gurus were probably surprised to see signs that the “story” they made up might come true.

I just went back and read fact check 1 from June, 2013. Gurus were saying the exact same things then that they say now.

 Any naive, unsuspecting person stumbling across that online info would be inclined to feel pressure to buy now. It has to be conscious deception and an overt effort to defraud.

Think about what kind of a person spends all day making up BS lies to con trusting, gullible people whose only crime is wanting a better life out of the small amount of surplus money they’ve been able to scrape together for a rainy day. No excuse will save these sheisters once the anvil drops.

Beliefs have a way of gaining momentum and impacting reality. This sounds simplistic but it may be a profound mechanism of the nature of reality.

The implications are sobering when one considers the current world mire but it’s also hopeful, since, if we use this mechanism wisely, it can help fashion a better tomorrow.

I hope dinar people do see some increase for their effort. At least they were willing to take the chance.

Unlike some who hold them in contempt, my heart goes out to them– most working class Americans never get a brake from the constant financial oppression. I will be happy if some of them finally do.

So what if it only changes their lives for a year or two? At least they will once again feel that it’s possible in America and it’s THAT seed of hope that is the REAL game-changer.

 Like I said, beliefs have a way of gaining momentum and impacting reality.

 Ever wonder what it would feel like to live in a world where the overriding prevailing sentiment is one of profound gratitude and the readiness to face whatever the future brings with enthusiasm, excited about giving something back?

Many, many years ago, a kind man lent me $500 to buy an old VW bug. I paid him back in two weeks, found work, fixed my life, and have been helping others ever since– I have never forgotten. He just wanted to help me. It certainly worked.

Extending the RV to include the common people– people who, yes, will very likely spend their windfall to improve their immediate conditions and be hard at work again within a year– is very important, not to give anyone a free ride (there are no free rides and everyone *** well knows it) but to restore faith in the future and rekindle the collective willingness to reach out to others and extend a hand up.

 It is this solidarity, not bank balances alone, that truly rebuilds nations. Wealthy people know this. They have been helping others for millenniums.

    Vince says:         Best posting i’ve read in a very long time. Kudos!

    earthspirit7777 says:     Amen and very true ;-}

Victor says:         To be quite honest I think it is a bit of a stretch that we would have to provide a receipt for our dong purchases. I bought mine from Travelex and I remember them giving me some bs little piece of paper that literally could be ANYWHERE in my house.

Does the bank really have the power to ask for how we receive some cheap ** dong? What about those who have gifted people dong/ dinar?

    Jake Diesel says:    Hahahah!    I have that same BS piece of paper when I bought my Dong and Rupiah at Travelex. I was looking everywhere for it, and ended up finding dried up pieces of cheese on my carpet along with a French Fry from 1987.

If anyone doesn’t have any receipts, message me, and I will send you the French Fry…it is shaped like TNT Tony and goes for a premium on Ebay with his following.

        Victor says:         Any thoughts Tony?

   whitehatauxiliaries says: I regret that a French fry was wasted like that, with so many people hungry.

        earthspirit7777 says:              ROTFLM{butt}O …..sorry but this is funny ;-}   

Gloria Madison says:      Some more info from OWoN to ease your fears :

GRIFFONREDWEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 2014 AT 7:01:00 AM MDT Hello. I had a question. Someone on the WHA website stated that they called Chase and they told them that they would only allow up to 5k USD for foreign exchanges, how are we going to do our trade then?

 I take it there is going to be a procedure for our Dong exchange right, which you will give us at the 48 hour notice? Oh and P.S. I checked my Dong, and I only have the 50k 100k and 200k notes. I guess I am in the clear on that issue.

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 2014 AT 8:07:00 AM MDT Griffonred Led us see what the rate is first.

But the major issue is to have credible bank accounts ready and able to receive in a substantial wire amount. and one where you have already satisfied Compliance when the time comes.

What we see from the sites is there would appear to be a Sub Species profiling ( Not You!) who assume they can just walk in with these notes and walk out with millions in cash. They walk among us.

So, for the seriously mentally challenged, understand please $10K is the max you will walk with so how do you think you will handle it? As we told you, there are those who cant sign with an X and get it right both times. But they can buy currencies. But then not have a clue how to exit. Beverly Hill billies Part 11.

Jesus Christ who teaches them to walk each day? Get major banking ready. Like- apply for a major account now? And be prepared to show each new Bank clear plans of how you plan to handle it.

 Banks are NOT Post Boxes and NO- They will NOT let it come in and all walk out.

Annoy the Bank by thinking and behaving like a Pillock and they will close your account, give you a clear out cheque, and good luck then trying to open a new account and cash that explaining it was issued with a Moron stamp on it.

Open accounts with a top 5 bank. Any country. Who thinks they can play these games like Disneyland? Big money- Big banks. They all have branches.

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rockville2 says:  Any new developments from your sources Tony , and if so when would that info be posted ? Thank You.

    whitehatauxiliaries says:    Nothing new at this time, and we will post anything new as soon as we get it and are allowed to release it. We will never hold anything back unless we are told to hold it back.

earthspirit7777 says:       I really like that there is info at this website about Dong !!!! It sure is easing my mind, except that it is taking to long to RV….I really need money now to cover daily expenses.

Comments may be made at the end of Part 10  Thank You

Tidbits from Frank26 and KTFA Members Wednesday Morning

Frank26:  Some of You found me coy by giving more info AFTER the prayers last night.

Trust me …….. I knew what I was doing. But it is NOW important for You to KNOW that the 4 I gave You last night are LOADED WITH SECURITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1.Currency
2.GOI
3.CBI
4.Borders

This security situation in the country is LINKED to THE MR !!!!   (Monetary Reform)

BECAUSE it is NOW established at a USA LEVEL and DADDY’S demands …………. So now that there is stability in the security situation of these FOUR it will only accelerate the implementation of this LAVA FLOW project and return Iraq to the purchasing POWER VALUE of their currency within the country.

Hey CBI ………… And I RIGHT or WRONG??? ( )

PS ………. Articles will exaggerate ISIS/DASH to counter this info.   KTFA,   Frank
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moneytalks1 : HI Frank and family, Great news and timing!!! High today so fa is 85.74..it has gone up like crazy in the last few days. Looks like a 1-1 situation.

US Dollar Currency Index (.DXY :Exchange)
Real Time Stock Quote | Source: Exchange
85.69 USD Last Trade
0.38 (+0.45%)

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Frank26:   Hmmm……. Indeed………. Just as we said two weeks ago when it finally hit 86 ………. That it would stay that way ………. Until needed.

Still maintaining and holding it’s position………… Indeed.

KTFA,   Frank

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Sager :Their next year is only a few days away:  LINK

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Moneytalks1:  Hi Sager,I have been thinking about this for a few days. How do we know with a certainty that “next year” is not their year and could be Jan.1,15?

Even though it doesn’t say ’15. IN my heart with all the evidence, i am sure it will happen before Nov.1 but i just want to be certain that when they say “next year”, they don’t mean next year as in jan.15. 

It would be great if we had real proof instead of guessing,

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Sager: 
There’s no way of knowing really. Time will tell

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bravesfan »  IMO – before we start jumping to 2015 and believing this/these articles that mention that can we FINISH October.

*Franks timeline is Oct 19-31 retro to Oct 1st

*Iteam said they are sticking with October as the month and that is the plan and if Iraq doesn’t do it then they don’t know what they are doing

*ISX is down from 19-26

*Islamic New Year starts Friday

*Borders are super secure

*The dollar has been UP for a few weeks now

IMO – I’m sticking with Frank & his Teams – I’ve heard the CCs and read the notes – and if they are wrong then I will move to November or 2015 or whatever the next time frame study is, but I’m not giving up on this blessing happening in October till October is over.


chacha :  On the More Positive Side of Life….The following quips are true incidences, both wonderful and inspirational.

1. Today, I interviewed my grandmother for a research paper I’m working on for my Psychology class. When I asked her to define success in her own words, she said,

“Success is when you look back at your life and the memories make you smile.”

2. Today, I asked my mentor – a very successful business man in his 70′s – what were his top 3 tips for success? He smiled and said, “Read something no one else is reading; think something no one else is thinking; and do something no one else is doing.”

3. Today, after a 72-hour shift at the fire station, a woman ran up to me at the grocery store and gave me a hug. When I tensed up, she realized I didn’t recognize her. She let go with tears of joy in her eyes and the most sincere smile and said, “On 9-11-2001, you carried me out of the World Trade Center.”

4. Today, after I watched my dog get run over by a car, I sat on the side of the road holding him and crying. And just before he died, he licked the tears off my face.

5. Today at 7 AM, I woke up feeling ill, but decided I needed the money, so I went into work. At 3 PM, I got laid off. On my drive home, I got a flat tire. When I went into the trunk for the spare, it was flat too. A man in a BMW pulled over, gave me a ride, we chatted, and then he offered me a job. I start tomorrow.

6. Today, as my father, three brothers, and two sisters stood around my mother’s hospital bed, my mother uttered her last coherent words before she died. She simply said, “I feel so loved right now. We should have gotten together like this more often.”

7. Today, I kissed my dad on the forehead as he passed away in a small hospital bed. About 5 seconds after he passed, I realized it was the first time I had given him a kiss since I was a little boy.

8. Today, in the cutest voice, my 8-year-old daughter asked me to start recycling. I chuckled and asked, “Why?” She replied, “So you can help me save the planet.” I chuckled again and asked, “And why do you want to save the planet?” “Because that’s where I keep all my stuff,” she said.

9. Today, when I witnessed a 27-year-old breast cancer patient laughing hysterically at her 2-year-old daughter’s antics, I suddenly realized that I need to stop complaining about my life and start celebrating it again.

10. Today, a boy in a wheelchair saw me desperately struggling on crutches with my broken leg and offered to carry my backpack and books for me. He helped me all the way across campus to my class, and as he was leaving he said, “I hope you feel better soon.”

11. Today, I was feeling down because the results of a biopsy came back malignant. When I got home, I opened an e-mail that said, “Thinking of you today. If you need me, I’m a phone call away.” It was from a high school friend I hadn’t seen in 10 years.

12. Today, I was traveling in Kenya and I met a refugee from Zimbabwe.

He said he hadn’t eaten anything in over 3 days and looked extremely skinny and unhealthy. Then my friend offered him the rest of the sandwich he was eating. The first thing the man said was, “We can share it.”

Yes…..The best sermons are lived, not preached.

Words of Wisdom

“There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you it’s going to be a butterfly.”

~ Buckminster Fuller

“As a child my family’s menu consisted of two choices: take it or leave it.”

~ Buddy Hackett

“The object of teaching a child is to enable him to get along without his teacher.”

~ Elbert Hubbard

White Hats Fact Check 125.6  Part 8 of 8

A Continuation Of Reader Comments  Brought From White hats
Fact Check 125.6 Part 8 of 8        Parts 1–4  begins here
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Charlie says:      October 19, 2014 at 7:25 pm  Tony:   A good Sunday evening to you sir, as well as to all the other WHA Auxiliary congregation.

The intel from this site coupled with the intel from the OWoN site has been invaluable to my level of information regarding the Awakening and the RV/GCR.

Although I appreciate very much the candor from Mr. OWoN (I know that he’s just one contributor, but do not know his name), I at times find myself a bit lost in the Britishisms and dry humor.

I love Monty Python and get it. That being said, I appreciate all that his group is doing to push this forward.

Is it possible to characterize the most recent missive from Mr. OWoN as the pre-pre get ready. I felt this way after reading, but am aware that a more formal announcement is the one we should be looking for – #126.
~~~

  Because of this site, I had my thoughts confirmed that the oversupply of Iraqi dinar could prove speculation in that currency troublesome to say the least at conversion time.

Due to this, I switched out of most of my Iraqi dinar and now own mostly dong, yuan and won. I am heavily weighted towards dong. In Mr. OWoN’s message seems to intimate the the dinar is almost “blood money” that the lay speculative currency investor need not hold out much hope in.

I am fully prepared to place my remaining dinar in my currency collection or as wallpaper in an outhouse. I certainly hope that is not the case for the Vietnamese dong.

I am not sure why there would be a problem with exchanging the dong since it is currently a globally traded currency. I trust it is not as “stinky” and problematic as holding tens of millions of dinar could be.

As for me, I have a relationship with Wells Fargo and have had material business with them for 20 years on the personal side. I also maintain a LLC account for my business.

In anticipation of the Event, I have opened up 3 new demand deposit and savings accounts with banking institutions and expanded one other knowing I will need to quickly diversify any proceeds among several institutions.

My question is – Are other members of the WHA seeking attorneys and/or accountants to go into the Bank with them should this pan out? If so, what is the thinking around what is required?

I have all of the purchase information and invoicing needed from the dealers that I bought the currencies from. My source of income is street legal and clean. I should think that this would be enough. Please let me know if I am missing anything.

On taxes, is not part of the process minimizing the role of the IRS in the new Republic of the USA?

At that time will the US Treasury assume again the function of collecting taxes?

To Mr. OWoN’s repeated points on the fact that the US leadership does not want the public participating in the RV/GCR, I am at a loss to understand why if Goldman Sachs and the I-Banks have for decades played both sides of transactions in order to arbitrage and take advantage in price disparities in markets, why would this be frowned upon in a new Republic from retail citizens.

If she will be starving for cash in a marked economic downturn, would the prospect of having Americans that have awakened and not in need of public assistance to bridge this transition not be a good thing for the Republic?

I am a bit confused on this point. I would think that taking personal initiative to inform themselves in a speculative investment in order to be self financing and use the proceeds to invest in industries to put people back to work and build up the Republic would be awesome.

The Old pre-cabal American way. Perhaps, I have a glitch in my Matrix.

Thank you again for all you have done and continue to do. Between the high hope and debilitating fear I bounce from everyday, I send peace and strength to the WHA members at the turn of the tide.

I understand that Mr. OWoN is matter of fact, but I certainly do wish that the more apocalyptic economic events do not occur to our people or to the global community as a whole.

I believe the best is ahead of us and we are moving into a “Golden Age” that we always thought was possible in which people realize our connection to one another without barriers, colors, races – whatever separation you want to insert here.

I am for one going to stand on that thought knowing our positive thoughts create change. If it goes that other way, I am ready for that as well. I wish everyone much luck and safety in the coming days and weeks.  Much love and light,  Charlie               

    whitehatauxiliaries says: Hi,  Thank you for your good will, and your kind support

    As for what other members are doing, we do not keep a record of. Each person has to approach this based on their individual circumstances and situations.

    As for the tax matters, we do not know of any specific plans for changes to the Treasury’s authority to collect taxes. Please contact your congressional representative for any such information.

    As for “Mr. OWoN”, we are fortunate to have him take us under his wing.

We are further just as fortunate that our WH contact briefed us on who he is without us having to guess or wonder if he was not just another blogger who loved to engage in all manner of exaggerations to seem wise or expert, as is the case with far too many others. He certainly does NOT fall into that sad category.

    Mr. OWoN is not obligated to give us any assistance. Nor is our WH contact.

It is by the slimmest of margins that we have such direct assistance from those involved in the new architecture from which the RV and such will come forth.

It is all of your duties to plan for and act with the best counsel you can avail yourselves of, and our contact and his colleagues have done and will continue to give us whatever help they can as well.

    It is my duty to keep us in good graces with them, and to make sure we are as informed as possible, with their assistance.  Thank you again.

whitehatauxiliaries says:  Happy Anniversary! You registered on WordPress.com 2 years ago! Thanks for flying with us. Keep up the good blogging!

    John s. says:       WOO HOO!!!! CONGRATS ON THE ANNIVERSARY! Thanks for your help and that of the white hats.

    alwaysme says:   Oh wow! So honored to be part of this brilliant group and proud to support its noble cause!   Long live the White Hats!    psst Tony, a little tip (and maybe it’s just me), I don’t think chicks dig speedos! ;)

        whitehatauxiliaries says:   They sure don’t. But I did receive a date proposal from the cabana boy. :o

        alwaysme says:            ok wait… literally LOL, almost ROTF!        Nicely done!

Andrew says:     Hi Tony, at your discretion I would like to offer Matthew’s latest message for our community to read. It is a very good summary of why we are where we are and our progress to change.

It also references Obama. To be honest, you may recall me posting my suspicions O is a double agent for the light – well here is my source. I trust Matthew and have read him for years – it is an esoteric source so I will say that upfront. Thanks for your work; let us hope the next is 126 and not 125.7 (although that too would be welcome).

http://goldenageofgaia.com/2014/10/19/matthews-message-via-suzi-ward-october-19-2014/#more-234133

Realist says:        Best of luck to all!

Gazza says:         Ok Tony I apologise. So if perhaps I felt it best to gift some dong away now to people who have a better bank standing than I do, what is involved in “gifting?”… just a signed piece of paper stating “I gift this over to XX” etc with a couple of signatures on it?

Do you think that would be acceptable in legal eyes as a way of someone obtaining dong especially if I (the gifter) still have my receipts?  Thank you!

Green Lantern says:       As I’m digging into the fine print on exchanging VNDs, once the GCR occurs, I got a red flag from the Travelex site. Namely, it was the “total value not to exceed $2500 USD”.

That was one of my initial concerns regarding procuring VND. Between this and the Patriot Acts, which also have “gate keepers” in place for DHS to be alerted to large bank transactions, my question is how, when the time comes, those holding VND will be able to have their big pay day?

My interest is definitely there in wanting to do this, but I need to understand more about the “hows” of making an exchange this big. I do know a number of you are deeper into this part of the equation than I am, so your guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Green Lantern says:       It appears my answer recides in an OWoN reply prior to my info request. You can leave my post, if you like, but since it appears to be redundant, feel free to delete it. Meanwhile, this is securing my thoughts of sticking with PMs for the time being.

    Gazza says:         Green Lantern   Forget Travelex and all such places. They will not be able to cash you out and potentially any notes purchased from them may be tangled up with legal issues.

Personally I do not want the rates to be large because it’ll cause loadsa problems. Hoping for a penny or two per dong. Anything more will be chaos and the law will come down on us like a fist.

Think about it… 500k single note becomes like $200k USD? Forget it! You won’t be allowed to cash out a wedge of them, certainly not casually in your local bank like you are cashing a $20 cheque!!!

This thing is huge and a minefield and now it seems certain notes may even be an issue. And there will be a further issue. Then your dear leader will be there ready to take it from you post-rv.

I’m thinking about gifting some away now because I’m a poor simple guy a bank wouldn’t spit on me if I was on fire. No bank will take me seriously if I turn up with a wedge of 500k VND/£130k GBP notes (@ 40c per dong). They’ll probably have me arrested.     

        Paul L Davis says:         Hi Gazza,  I have been reading your ‘personal’ doom and gloom fears for a while now. There is a saying; ‘Where your attention is there you are.’

You can have any future you want. You can have it as painful as you want or as freeing and loving as you want. What you think and say is what you are asking the Universe to give to you.

Know this fundamental truth so that when you get what you want, an awful future for yourself, remember that most others are focusing differently; as they want more and more goodness in their experience

     . Creation is big enough [ remember infinity is involved] to give everyone what they want.

Most of us do not want a fearful and negative future. If you keep on thinking, feeling and expressing fearful stuff you will find others will start to ignore you same old dame old. It is time to grow up Gazza. You will not find othersw to join your pity party here.

        When it is all said and done you will be able to count yourself as one who supported fear and hindered the freeing of humanity from enslavement.

XCE says:    WHA,  have you heard anything that there would be issues with large dong notes, like the 500k ones? They seem to be the most common for investors, but OWON alluded to a possible problem if I understand it. From brokers I have looked at they didn’t give the option of certain denominations of dong notes. They only sent what filled the order, regardless of denomination.      

    whitehatauxiliaries says:    Hi,    No, I have not heard of any issues with them not being just as valid as the lower denominations, since the VND is a recognized and traded currency.

    I cannot speak for what denominations were sent by any dealer. I would suggest that if you want to move to lower denominations, just take them to the bank and ask for such. They might be able to help you there. Not sure.

      maxm2014 says:     XCE. Could you recite the particular article that led you to infer this statement. I have been and avid follower of OWON for some time and do not recall any discussion pertaining to this statement..

HKmarkets says:     OWoN info on Dongs, etc,: MONDAY, OCTOBER 20, 2014 AT 3:59:00 PM MDT China will have a major say in what happens with Vietnam. They WILL protect their investments there. People gamble what they can afford to lose at their own risk.Greed and Gullibility rule.

The higher price by far, is for the lower denomination notes. The market is already telling you a lot. The world has changed a lot in 20 years. Is there even a need for 500K notes now apart from Drug dealers and money Launderers? Banks will be very wary of them.

These are issues the currency gamblers needed to factor in. None are certain.

What if the IMF and countries just print new notes and trash the old?

There are so many neon flashing lights yet. There is not the money in the world to bail the Dinars, its all been insanity. The more greedy suckers they could rope in, the more they printed.

It was only ever a Rope a Dope game. They never expected to cash them, just to take the fools who bought in. The Paper printers made the money. Ignorance ruled. It was a new Klondike of feed the greed.

So its a judgement call. The small notes command the higher prices. Why? Tough calls are coming. Will they mass bail the market? Not a prayer.

At best, the :PP groups will cut a deal and the rest will be cut loose as Iraq wont pay again for them. Banks don’t care who burns. Racketeers made Billions printing coloured crap.

 Dongs at least have a solid country and are not over printed. But is there a market for 500K notes? You can still buy them for a few Bucks. Which says what? Smart traders given nothing away. So why so low?

All these notes have issues with them. Lower values seem the best shots. Higher still look to be Monopoly Money. If you don’t know, why are you buying any of them? It all looks a Turkey shoot to me.

 The big battalions have influence, you have what? How many years now? Real world, lets hope by Thanksgiving. If not seriously start thinking next year then.

The people market exists solely to hope for crumbs from the top tier tables. And no one cares.When the big boys cash out and pull out, what then? None of this is a market organised by Professionals.

Dirtbags mass sold to the gullible and greedy. Now we wait for the mess to unfold and decisions to be made. Some will get a good hit. A lot will be left holding ? This will not be an easy ride. $500K can buy us $500M. And still we don’t bite. Hello?

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LL says:   Tony, Congrats on the two years and much thanks for all you do. Someone on OWON mentioned your contact estimated low .40 on Dong RV? Do you think this may be the case? Much obliged!

    whitehatauxiliaries says:    Hi,    The last time we were informed, we were told an estimated range for the public on the dong would be .47 to 1.00. That was just an estimate and not a guarantee.

    All things being equal, be prepared for anything.

    One thing for sure is that while we are waiting, it seems changes are always in progress, and then we have to take into account the information that is not shared with us at all, and who knows what that could mean in the end.  

Iceman says:      I’m not sure what OwoN means on the 500k dong notes. From my basic understanding on economics and exchanges. When forex says .47 per dong

It doesn’t matter what you got as long as it’s not counterfeit you should be able to exchange it. Maybe he means on PPP. they pay more on smaller notes. But market value is market value.

No body sees 1000 USA dollar bills on the street. I had one. Guess what it was worth. The same as 10-100 dollar bills or 50-20 dollar bills.    

    whitehatauxiliaries says:    I tend to agree with you on the higher denominations, but I think the point was that China was going to have a say in this…..and if they call such shots, well, there is probably not thing one any of us can do about it.

    Let’s see what happens before Thanksgiving. I have been on watch for any signs of “….nuts for this year, it’s 2015…..”. But, no such information has reached my attention so far.

LP says:    Happy two-year anniversary, WHA. We all owe you and your WH contacts a huge debt of gratitude.    Fortuna, seguruuntur te always, Mister Man!

Iceman says:   Tony. So what would happen to 500k notes. Dongs. It’s still money         

    whitehatauxiliaries says:     I have no idea….best pose that to OWoN.

        Iceman says:     I can’t post there I’ve tried.

        whitehatauxiliaries says:     Please write to OWon Admin for help in posting. They can give you some things to try.

EricDL says:    “I have been on watch for any signs of ‘….nuts for this year, it’s 2015…..’. But, no such information has reached my attention so far.”

“You want a prediction? You’re asking the wrong [squirrel]. I’ll give you a prediction about the ‘weather’. It’s gonna be cold. It’s gonna be dark. And it’s gonna last you for the rest of [2014]”

It’s GROUND HOG DAY!! Damn cabal.

chris g says:
      Will you be trading in your 500k notes tony? I think ill be trading mines in the a m but will 200k notes (which I personally have the lions share in) be considered large notes?

    whitehatauxiliaries says:   I have 100K notes. I cannot even begin to tell you where the cutoff is for considering what is large or small in the dong category.

    That will have to be asked of those at OWoN. All of this sudden disfavoring of the 500K dong notes is not anything we can even begin to address over here. Thank you.

            naturalized citizen says:   So the question is where do we go from here.

        I get that OWoN disdains the US for what it has done to the world and its people. We are with them. Trust me, I don’t even know what to do with the dumb and blind in this country.

        What we need is the accurate and timely information, and most of us thought IQD was that years ago. Then we were told to switch to VND.

        The truth of the matter is VND is still an exotic currency to purchase in that we really do not have much choice as to where to purchase them and in what denomination.

        So given the most recent input from OWoN, do we travel to Vietnam to convert the high denomination currencies to lower denominations? That would seem to be the only solution given to us at this juncture.

        Speaking for most who reads this blog, we would appreciate being at the receiving end of accurate information with practical applications and not so much disdains for being part of the sick nation. If we knew what to do within our own means without being killed, many of us would.

        whitehatauxiliaries says:     Hello,       I would await any further information before you take your dong to Vietnam. But, you are free to explore whatever options you may feel are good for your circumstances.

R L says:    OWoN    TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21, 2014 AT 2:10:00 AM MDT

Lets be clear on notes. Vietnam was all lawful currency in its time, before Banks and others were mass looted by occupying parasites. So at least you have a basis of hope here, albeit some with questions of history of funds and how obtained. But times and markets have changed.

 So has virtual ownership of Vietnamese industries. Now China has a huge stake in Vietnam and will not lightly surrender its vast investment. Nor will the nation see its jobs lost in a crazy currency hike which destroys its export markets. So already a balance needs to be found, plus, who is paying for it?

With what? The market needs a reality check. Finite money, Export dependencies and jobs factor in.

 Not and army of clutching currency ants screaming Gimme, gimme,.gimme. What works now for Vietnam? Plus, what deal will be cut for the major tiers. Real World?

A lot is in negotiation and all has to be decided on. Let’s all wait and see. But with Dongs you should see something back. The question is what. If we can still buy $500m blocks for c$500K, with all the Street Smart Forex Traders involved, what does that tell us?

You really think they will pass up on a killing like that, if real? So- Reality, what will be the real rate? We all have to wait and see. Guru rags know nothing and hype the greed and naivety of the Wannabes.

No one made anyone gamble. Do we reward proceeds of crime? Plus it then becomes Money Laundering? Do these funds trace back to genuine Trade Debts, or War Looting, or unauthorised printing? KYC and Diligence rules with anti Money Laundering oversight.

What is the provenance of these Dinar funds? Laws have changed and moved on since this scam started. At the rates forecast, there is not the money in the world to bail them at such rates. Nor does Iraq need or want them. It cant pay for them at such rates- Ever! So,decisions.

The big battalions will be first at the trough and Political fixes. Big Dogs feed first. Then what because very soon Iraqi conversion funds will deplete. Then what? Borrow Israel’s Wailing Wall?

So Yes, Iraqi Dinars carry big questions. It needs judgement calls.

All we tried to do is help parties evaluate real questions. No one is owed and no one made anyone buy. Iraq can never, ever, ever, justify hundreds of Ts. So now what? Real issues, real decisions are needed.

We wait.We hold none. We just can not see a clear history of lawful rights to trade in them. Big battalions will be part accommodated, but Joe Public? Basic questions need to be resolved.

Lets wait and see what reality determines. Is Santa coming? Whatever chance you have, Dongs profile better. All these other Jungle Bunny papers???????????? What do you know which the market doesn’t? Not Boiler Plate hype by Guru frauds. Intelligent Diligence.

Read more at: http://www.oneworldofnations.com/2014/10/who-lost-our-liberty.html

For some time now, the White Hats and John from OWoN have been indicating that the Dong is likely to be okay and while we do understand that things can change, the above information from OWoN is a bit confusing and ambiguous.

Admittedly, we are just little minnows in the big scheme of things and understand that we are not meant to know what’s going on behind the scenes. However, the discussion over the last 24 hours feels like a roller coaster. Reading with some sympathy Gazza’s heartfelt outpouring of despondency.

It is speculative. Noone owes us anything. It is a gamble. We get that. We come here (gratefully) to WHA and OWoN for facts, the unvarnished brutal (if need be) truth – and we have been educating ourselves accordingly.

The efforts of so many are deeply appreciated. We would never wish to impose ourselves on the good graces of the White Hats, yet we are left wondering if the higher demominations of the Dong have now gone the same way as the Dinar: i.e. toast?  Thank you Tony.

    whitehatauxiliaries says:   Hello,    I understand your concern. The correct venue for your question is at OWoN.

    WHA is not in a position to question or override their position in all of these events from the standpoint of information access. If they issue comments and opinions, such stand on their own.

    My personal take on these recent comments is that things are still not fully settled. It would appear that the dong is the better bet, but now we just have to wait and see what is going to happen in the rate arena.

    Any questions about the higher denominations should be taken to OWoN, as I have zero information on them to offer.

    Personally, I do not see anything that says that they are going to be worthless at this time. Nothing on the CBOV is saying such, so all we can do is either hold onto them, exchange them for lower denoms, or perhaps get rid of them all and move onto a less speculative endeavor for ones fortune seeking.

    “Let’s all wait and see. But with Dongs you should see something back. The question is what. ” With that phrase, it is clear that the end rate is still not settled, so we simply have to wait and see.

chris g says:  I exchanged all my large notes at chase bank this morning. I took a 3.1 million dollar loss for converting my large dongs to smaller denominations. I feel comfort now because I also learned I will have a pretty easy exchange being the only person that buys dong at my local branch.

Martin says:  Hello all  I agree that it is a wait and see type of thing as regards the 500k Dong, I’m not saying that I am not perplexed about it but logic would say that the 500k still could be in the pot but the price would reflect that and the Dong as a whole would come in a whole lot lower to compensate.

Of course this is speculation at this point and I am too eager to find out for sure the real answer to this question. One thing that I know for sure is that I am always at the wrong end of the stick. You too?

Well I guess I am not alone. Unfortunately things do not work out the way we would like them to.  Regards  Martin

sitkaevenstar says:    what is sad that somebody dreams up to conspire a story about banks not excepting 500k notes then people run with it . all the dong i have purchased is verified through a del a rue machine . sit back relax let this play out who nows what is going to happen

   whitehatauxiliaries says:     Hi,    Nobody has said they are 100% not going to be accepted. If such is 100% verified, we will be told in such language that makes it unmistakable. So far, I do not see such.

 We have been given information from the front lines that there may be an issue with them because of Chinese interests, but that was not given as a sure thing at this time. I see no – NO – official release that the 500K dong notes are “worthless” or are going to be considered such. That being said, be prepared.

    Remember, gurus are not going to release information that makes them look badly. We give you it all here, no censoring or attempts to conceal. No venture or speculation has a 100% golden shine. Speculation in any market has its bad elements and risks, and currencies are especially such a fit in that regard.

    Once again, prepare for anything. It is quite clear that planning and negotiating are still ongoing. We won’t know the full picture until it comes pouring out onto the world’s stage. That has not happened yet.

Thank you.     

    jamesdarren says:   sitkaevenstar…. that is good advice…. to sit back and relax and wait to see how it plays out…but, since these new topics came up I did some calling….

I have 500k Dong notes and I cannot exchange them here or from where I bought them from for smaller notes… I called Chase in my area and they also told me that if in the future I wish to exchange Dong for USD the max is 5k… I now understand the group thing that ive seen in dinar land, as in, the generals group and such…. I sit in limbo….

        chris g says    Sell the dong to chase and buy more dong. Just be specific that you want small denominations

        XCE says:     Why would there be a limit on the max amount you can exchange?

mike says:    Just exchanged 450 dollars for dongs. Needless to say the two banks I used gave me very large bills in dongs   Very few less than 2000 denominations

Am I screwed as far as getting the full amount when I exchange?

    whitehatauxiliaries says:   Hello,    First, we do not even know what the “full amount” is going to be. I doubt anyone can tell you that right now.

    If you have any concerns about what denominations you have in your hand, then please adjust accordingly. WHA is NOT here to give advice on currency speculation.

We are here to bring forth any information we can from the front lines regarding it, and all decisions on what to hold, what to do, etc., are with each individual.

    I have taken my positions, based on my risk tolerance, and will wait it out until the matter is concluded. That is all I can do. That is all anyone can do.

    Until the matter is concluded, we will continue to bring forth whatever information we can so you all can be as updated as possible from the front lines.

    But, we cannot render advice on personal financial decisions. We never have, and never will.
    Thank you.

    jamesdarren says:    chris g, have to have an account with Chase here to do anything at all…. also I am in the mountains- small town… they send off to verify currency… and since they will not exceed 5k total for exchange its not worth all the hassle at this point… just gonna sit tight for a few and see what pans out… thanks chris… best to us all!

   sitkaevenstar says:      ill get my depends ready when we get word of an R.V.until then its all talk chase will exchange  foreign currency at the going rate .being a cmkx share holder you become seasoned to loose  talk . thanks tony

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