[Jester] SoldierofChrist I DOUBT THIS WEEK WILL HOLD ANY SURPRISES AT THE LEVEL YOU CAN SEE…
[kristi] I understand about trusting the group. What I don’t understand is who is the profiteer from the street rate? It seems that it actually hurts Iraq as they have to put out currency rather than long term oil contracts. It wouldn’t seem to matter to the UST. So who is making the money from the no groups?
[mentoredlife] Kristi I believe from Jester’s description above it’s the banks that benefit from you exchanging with them rather than as part of the group. Banks = Federal Reserve = Cabal. They profit from you not being part of a UST group.
[Jester] mentoredlife NOT SURE EVEN HOW MUCH PROFIT THAT IS SINCE IT IS THE STREET RATE… JUST THE FEES AFTER ALL…
[jbmeans] Jester so haven’t the peeps in the groups been somewhat checked out, therefore trustworthy of the high rate and then they would not want to necessarily pay a high rate to those not in the group as “anyone” could then have access to huge sums of $?
[Jester] jbmeans THAT IS TRUE ENOUGH TOO…. AND THEY HAVE NO USE FOR THAT DINAR AS IT IS JUST IN THE SYSTEM IN THE BANK… THEY CANNOT GET AT THAT INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE TRANSACTION THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT…
[Jester] IT WOULD BE WAY TOO CUMBERSOME AND NOT THAT EFFICIENT TO TRY TO CAPTURE THE INDIVIDUALS…
[jbmeans] Jester understood
[mentoredlife] Jester Good point. Although banks do make pretty good profits off of fees as it is. Why not take a cut of the IQD exchange if they can.
[texas1837] Jester so that would seem to be the way to go as an individual?
[Jester] THE GROUPS DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK VETTING ALL THE INFORMATION AND GETTING IT READY FOR THEM…
[Jester] texas1837 YOUR OTHER OPTION IS STILL THE GENERAL64 GROUP… HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING IS WORKED OUT THERE AND THEY GET THAT DONE…
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[dave_144] Jester I just saw where the French president inferred the attack on Henbo was Illuminati. Have they lost control of one of their allies?
[Jester] dave_144 NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN… NOT ALL THE FRENCH ARE BAD GUYS ANY MORE THAN ALL AMERICANS ARE BAD GUYS EITHER… THE PEOPLE ARE NOT RUNNING THIS SHOW…
[Jester] LETS THINK FOR A MINUTE OF WHO BENEFITS FROM ALL THAT… CAUSES A LOT OF MISDIRECTION AND POINTS FINGERS THAT CAUSE DISSENSION… THAT WAS THE PURPOSE… ANOTHER FALSE FLAG WHERE INNOCENT PEOPLE DIED TO MAKE SOMEONE ELSE’S POINT AND GET RESULTS THEY LIKE TO HAVE… SAD REALLY… SEE THROUGH IT AND DO NOT BE HOODWINKED…
[dave_144] Jester I know we are running the show but I think it is very telling that Hollande almost calls the cabal out.
[dave_144] Jester I also see this as another problem created for the solution they want to impose on us to further erode our liberties, what we have left that is.
[Jester] UMMM… I THINK THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT I JUST SAID ISN’T IT?
[dave_144] Jester Yep but do you think this shows they may be losing control of some of their puppets?
[Jester] dave_144 I AM NOT FOLLOWING YOUR REASONING… WHO IS THE THEY YOU ARE SPEAKING OF?
[dave_144] Jester The puppet masters
[Jester] dave_144 OK… NOT FOLLOWING YOUR LOGIC… I THINK IT WAS DONE ON PURPOSE… SO THEY ARE THE ONES THAT DID IT IN THE FIRST PLACE… HOW CAN YOU LOSE CONTROL OF SOMETHING YOU DID YOURSELF?
[dave_144] Jester So I guess Hollande was just following his script.
[Jester] dave_144 MAYBE I DO NOT SEE IT THE SAME AS YOU… TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE SOME BAD GUYS CAME IN AND KILLED SOME INNOCENT PEOPLE TO START A RIFT BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND FRENCH PEOPLE.. OR MUSLIMS AND WHOEVER… FOR THEIR REASONING THIS FALSE FLAG IS TO DECEIVE AND DISTRACT EVERYONE SOME MORE…
[dave_144] Jester I agree with you on that I just find it very telling that Hollande used the term “Illuminati” in referring to the extremist who committed this crime.
[Jester] ANYONE ELSE GOT QUESTIONS TONIGHT?
[ajmaudio] well if nobody has a good one I’ll offer up a mediocre one???
[Jester] ajmaudio ANY QUESTION IS FINE… YOU ARE CRACKING ME UP….
[ajmaudio] Jester what do you think the odds are that somehow the PTB Have/Will work this “transitional” period out without a dramatic crash of some kind.. however that might.be..
[ajmaudio] maybe using proceeds form their own currency swap
[ajmaudio] so no big dollar crash.. more like a hiccup … oh hey btw we have all this money and are going to fix the “bubble” etc
[Jester] ajmaudio MAN THAT IS REALLY A HARD ONE… I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THAT ONE… RIGHT NOW I AM ON 50/50… BUT THE MORE THE EAST KEEPS WORKING FORWARD ON THE REPLACEMENT OF THE DOLLAR THE MORE I AM GOING TO MOVE TOWARD THE CRASH… AND HERE IS THE KICKER… A PERCENTAGE OF MY OPINION THAT IS SWAYING IS THE ONE THAT IS THINKING IT IS ALREADY PART OF THE PLAN…
[ajmaudio] I only ask as part of me thinks it makes sense that they would have something in the works to save face, and keep some loyalty, to perhaps carry on as it were to some point. I dunno…
[ajmaudio] ok.. so at least I am not alone in wondering
[ajmaudio] can I ask what makes you think its part of the plan?
[Jester] ajmaudio NOPE… IMAGINE THIS… YOU HAVE TWO SYSTEMS… NOT QUITE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE AT THIS POINT… THE UST AND THE FED… BUT YOU WILL LIKE TO MAKE THEM EXCLUSIVE IN THE END WITH ONE GOING AWAY… WHAT BETTER WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT THAN TO FUND ONE AND CRASH THE OTHER…
[ajmaudio] Looking at history… the PTB always find a way to cover their butts… and move along without tooooo much disturbance… somehow… and we are dumb enough to just take it and go along being squeezed for everything we have
[ajmaudio] I have thought about that… in that same line of thinking though… what if when they crash the one they are able to make a clean transition using funds obtained through this whole currency thing
[Jester] ajmaudio I HAVE TOLD YOU HOW THE UST COULD GET FUNDED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS WITH THE OIL CREDIT SCENARIO… THE UST HAS THE CONTRACTS NOT THE FED… KEEP THAT IN MIND…
[ajmaudio] exactly.. so I guess.. in that scenario.. why would they truly “crash it” as in a hard crash…
[Hoosier Girl] And it takes the dollar out of some bad peoples hands to.. No one will want it….
[Jester] AND THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER SCENARIOS THAT HAVE GONE BY THE WAY… AND THIS IS MY OPINION… I THINK FOR SOME REASONS THE PLANS HAVE CHANGED ALONG THE WAY SO THE FED WASN’T THE ONE COMING OUT ON TOP…THIS IS WHERE ALL THE DOLLAR REFUNDING STUFF GETS CLOUDY… AND I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO A DISCUSSION OF ALL OF THAT… BUT THINGS CHANGE…
[ajmaudio] Just like you mentioned that the printing of another trillion dollars didn’t even seem to make news…. makes you wonder
[ajmaudio] I guess we are in the same spot.. 50/50 but you have alot more to go on.
[ajmaudio] part of me is like… hold on to your britches… the other expects some ridiculous scenario where it all gets covered up as per normal
[Jester] REALIZE THAT THEIR IS A TENUOUS PLAN IN PLACE TO GET IT DONE TO THE BENEFIT OF WHAT IS LOOSELY TERMED THE REPUBLIC AND LET IT GO AT THAT…
[ajmaudio] ok… on that… and this is a big question.. how is that being headed up? seems like an enormous task to go up against the machine. At least from what we sheeple can see, the corporation owns this place
[ajmaudio] I can’t see that in my position… which makes it doubly intriguing
[Jester] ajmaudio IS GOING TO TAKE A BIT OF TIME TO UNDO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE… IT IS NOT GOING TO GET DONE OVERNIGHT… EVEN THOUGH THE THINGS THAT WERE DONE WERE NOT LEGAL IN THE STRICT SENSE OF THE WORD IT IS NOT LIKE YOU THINK… IT WAS DONE QUASI-LEGAL… AND IT WILL HAVE TO BE UNDONE THE SAME WAY…
[ajmaudio] Perhaps a better way to say it is that I don’t see any significant powers of good at work in the “goings on” of our gov.
[ajmaudio] TIme… for sure..not expecting fast.
[ajmaudio] am I just missing the good?
[ajmaudio] I do agree though… it certainly does seem like the entire world is pushing to end the dollar…. You kind of assume it will end with a boom. But we certainly don’t seem to worried about it
[Jester] ajmaudio NOT SURE YOU CAN SEE IT AT THIS LEVEL… BUT MAYBE THAT IS WHY THEY ARE NOT WORRIED… WHO KNOWS IF THAT IS PART OF THE PLAN…
[ajmaudio] well if one assumes we have a few trillion dinar as a country… things could be interesting I suppose
[ajmaudio] though I’d wonder what they would do with it.. cashing in for dollars wouldn’t exactly work now would it? lol
[ajmaudio] buy back some gold from china? lol.. as if they would let that much go…
[Jester] ajmaudio AS I SAID… WE EXPLAINED HOW ALL THAT WORKS WITH THE OIL CREDIT SCENARIO SOME TIME BACK…
[ajmaudio] Yes I recall more or less
[Jester] ajmaudio IF YOU WERE GOING TO BUY GOLD WHAT WOULD YOU BUY IT WITH AND WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IT?
[ajmaudio] personally? or in the above scenario
[Jester] ASK THE FED TO LOAN YOU SOME MORE MONEY TO PUT IN THE UST? I DOUBT THAT WOULD WORK… HAHAHAHAHHA
[ajmaudio] exactly my point lol
[Jester] OOPS… THAT SHOULD SAY… ASK THE FED TO LOAN YOU SOME MORE MONEY TO BUY SOME GOLD TO PUT IN THE UST?
[ajmaudio] funny thought considering our monetary policy as of late though
[ajmaudio] I followed lol
[Jester] SOME MAY NOT HAVE THAT IS WHY I REITERATED IT…
[ajmaudio] print another trillion.. why not right? Sheesh
[Jester] ajmaudio THEY WOULD NOT DO IT FOR THAT REASON…
[Jester] THAT WOULD BE AKIN TO SOMEONE LOANING YOU MONEY SO YOU COULD TAKE A HIT OUT ON THEM…. HAHAHHAHAH
[Aunt B] Lol
[ajmaudio] I do also wonder how/if all of the stuff coming out about 911 etc etc will play into all of this. on one hand that deal seems to be working to a boiling point.. on the other look at the JFK deal.. we all know that was bs but we dont do anything about it.
[ajmaudio] granted this thing is moving much faster courtesy of the inter web… smaller world
[ajmaudio] hahahaha.. Jester.. yes it would…kinda what the gov does to us as it is though if you think about it
[Jester] ajmaudio WE WILL SEE… THEY HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TAX MONEY OVER THE YEARS COVERING ALL THAT UP… STILL COSTING THEM TO MAKE THE SMART PEOPLE LOOK STUPID AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE CONSPIRACY NUTS…
[ajmaudio] ya… if the polls I have seen are true.. the majority don’t buy it.. but here we sit… that’s kinda nuts.
[ajmaudio] if this isn’t too far off topic… how about investing at a time when there is no safe way to invest conventionally.. ie stock market etc
[ajmaudio] there is gold…
[ajmaudio] real estate… which I’m not sure about… what else does one do if you assume the rest will pop in the future
[Jester] ajmaudio MY STANDARD ANSWER ON INVESTMENTS IS TO HIRE SOMEONE A LOT SMARTER AND EXPERIENCED THAT YOU CAN FIND IN ANY CHAT ROOM… HAHAHAHHAHA
[Yellow Rose Grandma] ajmaudio how bout buying interests into local companies?? I’m no expert but I do like to keep it local
[ajmaudio] sure… I was more curious about general concepts.. and to your point… good luck finding someone who won’t tell you to put it in a mutual fund etc
[ajmaudio] Yellow Rose… that’s what I am considering… in a crash that could also go south.. but in the short term perhaps… I was pondering how one actually does that earlier today
[Jester] Yellow Rose Grandma MUNICIPAL BONDS MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA… THAT PUTS THE MONEY TO WORK IN YOUR AREA… AND THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN PRETTY SAFE…
[grace2beme] Can you ever really own land in the United States?
[ajmaudio] mmm… not familiar.. have to look that up Jester
[ajmaudio] good question on the land…
[Jester] ajmaudio BONDS THAT FUND THE LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SCHOOLS AND SUCH…
[Jester] KEEP IT AT THE STATE OR LOCAL LEVEL.. PROBABLY MUCH SAFER… YOU DO NOT HEAR ABOUT ANY COUNTIES OR STATES DOING ANY BAIL INS… HAHAHAHAH
[ajmaudio] does that stay in tact in a big crash I wonder.. hard to predict I am sure…
[ajmaudio] good point
[Jester] JUST SOMETHING TO INVESTIGATE… OTHER THAN THAT HARD ASSETS ARE ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA…
[ajmaudio] I also thought about Land… but had same question… will it be mine?
[ajmaudio] PM and land… what other things constitute a hard asset…
[Jester] ajmaudio IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THIS MINUTE… GET SOME SILVER OR GOLD COINS… WHATEVER YOU CAN AFFORD…
[grace2beme] I mean you can buy land but yet for some reason you can’t pay the property taxes they will take it away from you so can you ever really own it?
[Jester] ajmaudio HARD TO SPEND IF YOU NEED FOOD… JUST SAYING…
[ajmaudio] ya.. working on that… you can at least hope it will hold its purchasing power as it has for so long.
[Jester] OK… SINCE WE ARE NOT INVESTMENT PROFESSIONALS LETS MOVE ON TO SEE WHAT grace2beme HAS TO ASK…
[grace2beme] Everyone always says invest in real estate.
[ajmaudio] yes.. in a truly dire situation.. hard hard crash.. boos, bullets, etc lol
[Jester] grace2beme LOST ABOUT $11 MILLION ON THAT DEAL WHEN THE HOUSING CRASH CAME AND THEY CHANGED ALL THE LENDING RULES… SO BEWARE…
[ajmaudio] its that intermediate crash, as we will call it, that seems harder to define a good path
[grace2beme] My question was can you ever really own property in the United States?
[Jester] ajmaudio SMOKES… THAT WILL BE A BIG ONE IF THINGS GO THAT FAR SOUTH…
[ajmaudio] ya.. the only safe part about land is that you can make food with it is what I am thinking as of late.. that is if you ever really own it
[ajmaudio] that too
[Jester] grace2beme WELL SURE YOU CAN… BUT THAT DOES NOT KEEP YOU FROM PAYING THE TAXES ASSOCIATED WITH IT IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING…
[ajmaudio] part of me doesn’t see it going thaaaat far.. but who am I…. I know squat
[grace2beme] Yeah that’s what I’m saying if you buy the land out right you still have to pay taxes on it and then what happens if you don’t pay the taxes they take it from you so can you ever really own it?
[Jester] ajmaudio IMAGINE HOW MUCH MORE YOU KNOW THAN THE AVERAGE SHEEPLE RIGHT NOW… JUST SAYING…
[ajmaudio] perhaps…. we won’t know till sometime down the road right? lol
[Jester] grace2beme TAXES ARE A FACT OF LIFE… WHY WOULD YOU BUY LAND THAT YOU CANNOT AFFORD THE TAXES ON?
[grace2beme] Well I wouldn’t but what happen if you became ill something else?
[Jester] THAT WILL BE A COMMON ISSUE WITH PEOPLE AND THEIR NEW FOUND WEALTH I AM TOLD…
[Jester] IT IS THE MOST COMMON MISTAKE THAT LOTTERY WINNERS MAKE ACCORDING TO THE STATISTICS…
[grace2beme] Just trying to make the point that as long as the government is the way it is we can’t ever really truly have anything that we can own for ourselves because they can always take it away!
[ajmaudio] I mean.. if it goes.. first thing down will be power… I’d think
[Jester] SO… ANYONE ELSE?… LET’S NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST SECOND TONIGHT… HAHAHAHAH
[ajmaudio] Jester ya… thats my plan if given the resources.. .that’s my plan in the long term if none of this happens as we think.. RV etc. Get a nice plot.. and build something for off grid. technology has come a long way