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European stocks fluctuate after the open; DAX picks up 0.1%

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Investing.com – European stock markets swung between small gains and losses on Tuesday, as investors shrugged off upbeat trade data from China, instead focusing on plunging oil prices.

During European morning trade, the EURO STOXX 50 dipped 0.15%, France’s CAC 40 shed 0.1%, while Germany’s DAX 30 tacked on 0.1%.

China reported a trade surplus of $49.6 billion in December, broadly in line with expectations. Exports jumped 9.7% in December, but imports rose by a smaller-than-forecast 2.4%, pointing to weak domestic demand.

Meanwhile, crude oil prices fell to almost six-year lows, pressured lower by concerns over a global supply glut.

The rout in oil prices has fuelled concerns of exacerbating already low levels of inflation in many major world economies, sending investors into safe haven assets.

Sentiment remained supported amid speculation that the European Central Bank will embark on full blown quantitative easing as soon as its next meeting on January 22.

Elsewhere, in London, the commodity-heavy FTSE 100 rose 0.25%, as investors looked ahead to key December inflation data due later in the session.

In the U.S., equity markets pointed to a modestly higher open. The Dow Jones Industrial Average futures pointed to a 0.15% rise, SP 500 futures signaled a 0.15% gain, while the Nasdaq 100 futures indicated a 0.15% increase.

The U.S. dollar index, which measures the greenback’s strength against a trade-weighted basket of six major currencies, eased to 92.17, off the 12-year peaks of 92.76 scaled last week.

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Chinese trade balance 49.10B vs. 49.85B forecast

Investing.com – China’s trade balance fell more-than-expected last month, official data showed on Tuesday.

In a report, National Bureau of Statistics of China said that Chinese Trade Balance fell to 49.10B, from 54.47B in the preceding month.

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Comments On China & Saudi Arabia Forcing USD Part 2

Comments On China & Saudi Arabia Forcing USD Acquiesce   Part 2

JC Collins
  JANUARY 9, 2015 AT 10:27 PM   Thanks for sharing the link. We all have valuable contributions to make here. In regards to a solution, I’ve offered mine here many times, but unfortunately it’s not the one people want to hear. 

Any system, or correction to an existing system, including change through revolution, is manifested from the hearts and minds of man. And until those hearts and minds balance and work in unison, the dysfunction and corruption (of all processes) will continue.

 The same cycle will continue for ten thousand more years. Wanting or desiring a “mosquito coast” lifestyle does not mean that lifestyle will not be altered or corrupted from outside forces, never mind the corrupt forces which exist within each of us.
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JC Collins Continues:  Therein lays the challenge for humanity, separation and sameness are one and same. And yet, we wait for separation to offer us a solution to a problem which lives in each one of us, whether you acknowledge it or not.

In the meantime, I will continue to research and write about the mechanics of the multilateral transition, with a spattering of the esoteric when I can, with the intent of building understanding about the patterns that continue to repeat throughout human history.

Those that wish to run headfirst into the same wall of human dysfunction and despair are only building the horror of tomorrow, as the outcome of every revolution in human history has proven.

irrelevant111  JANUARY 10, 2015 AT 9:12 PM  Mr. Collins, You are most assuredly one that absorbs w/o comment until a persuasive rebuttal. A fine line…

I challenge nothing. It is common mans understanding to determine truth based on belief and perception, most certainly knowledge of where we are today. Most citizens in the U.S. have a blind eye.

It is disheartening daily the lack of “street smarts” on world events.

Blogs such as yours opens eyes as well as other venues to those that see…

Enjoy the dynamic of change in 2015, it will be profound and nothing more…  Best My Dear Friends As We Journey On…  John

Daneackerman  JANUARY 9, 2015 AT 9:37 PM  “France calls for Russian sanctions to be lifted and 2 days later suffers a terrorist attack on “freedom of expression”. Interesting.”

And a little damage control…..”U.S. investigating depth of Al Qaeda group’s ties to attack in France”

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-france-attack-terrorist-group-20150109-story.html

matt (@speedspirit42)  JANUARY 10, 2015 AT 1:41 AM  Here is bit of info on terror attacks pointing fingers at Britain and US intel.

“Indeed, evidence is already coming to the surface, indicating a clear British hand behind the terrorist attacks in Paris. On Thursday night, the Daily Telegraph revealed clear links between one of the Paris attackers and Abu Hamza, a longtime jihad recruiter based out of the Finsbury Park Mosque in London.

Abu Hamza was convicted in a US Federal Court last year of terrorism sponsorship, but in his trial, his defense was that he was working on behalf of MI5, Britain’s equivalent of the FBI.

The same desperation driving the new wave of 9/11-style terrorism is also driving Congressional Republican leaders to bend to Wall Street’s demands for immediate guarantees of unlimited taxpayer bailout of their totally bankrupt financial bubble.

At the same time, they are also, as Lyndon LaRouche warned, pressing for vicious austerity measures targeted at America’s poorest and most vulnerable citizens—through cuts in Food Stamps, Social Security Disability and Veterans benefits. This is one and the same as the British policy of radical population reduction. ” LaRouche

Roger Parness  JANUARY 10, 2015 AT 3:53 AM  Nuclear power is supported by brain dead businessmen and predator politicians with zero concern for life and the future.

To include renewable energy with nuclear is to display simply and clearly a level of ignorance intent on destroying our children’s world.   Ravenous greed predominates.   Life not profit.  NO NUKES!

Dripfood  JANUARY 10, 2015 AT 1:37 PM  Hello Roger, as you know, I am a proponent of the development nuclear energy technology.

I hope you will believe that my proponency is rooted in research and consequent knowledge about the subject and not in the least in greed or hate against your (nor my own) children.

I am quite sure your current view will soften by researching the following topics: breeder reactor, thorium reactor, LENR (the new and politically correct word for cold fusion) and fusion reactor.

The technology should be given a fair chance and funding proportionate to its positive promise for humanity: small (personal), cheap and zero-footprint nuclear energy devices are within reach.

Associating nuclear energy production with nukes or Tjernobyl is a result of fierce CSI programming, initiated in the early 1970’s by oil interests and continuing today. As you know, CSI is meant to evoke emotional reactions based on misdirection. If you remove the misdirection, the emotional reaction wll subside.

tristero888  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 12:04 AM  fusion not fission

irrelevant111  JANUARY 10, 2015 AT 9:27 PM  P.S. JC, most will not understand “Mosquitos Coast”, unless they saw it…

JC Collins  JANUARY 10, 2015 AT 10:25 PM  I know. I have a habit of referencing things without explaining them in more detail. Perhaps its laziness on my part.

Matt McBride (@MattMhmmcbride)  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 12:04 AM  Dear all,  Attached is a link to Christopher Wilkies 2012 book ‘Special Drawing Rights (SDRs): The first international money’.

Definitely worth a read in conjunction with JCs posts.  LINK

Matt McBride (@MattMhmmcbride)  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 12:50 AM  Hi JC, Do you see Sauds losing US protection against their internal and external enemies with a transition away from the petrodollar toward the SDR?

JC Collins  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 1:01 AM  Yes, I do Matt. I tend to go against the grain, so where most see a Saudi-American operation against Russia, Iran, etc, to drop oil prices,

I see it more as the efforts of Saud and China, with the purpose of fragmenting OPEC along the subduction zone which exists between low cost and high cost producers.

This will build the case for international regulation of the energy markets and a shift towards SDR denomination. What better way to get the world to accept SDR than by requiring all exchanges of energy to be denominated in the SDR. Just like happened with the petrodollar.

 And the threats made against Saudi Arabia last summer by USD support group ISIS is seldom mentioned in the analysis of the currently streaming theory.

Matt McBride (@MattMhmmcbride)  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 2:18 AM  Agreed.  Sauds and China are pushing along the SDR system with the fracturing of OPEC, and stand to benefit greatly by picking up the broken pieces for cents in the dollar…or should I say cents in the SDR.

I wonder what “deal” or guarantee the Saudis got from China/Russia/Iran.

It seems the U.S. could be scapegoating the Sauds Citigroup:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-05/citi-next-aig-70-trillion-reasons-why-citigroup-and-congress-scrambled-pass-swaps-pu

Do you see a war as an engineered way to accomplish further SDR expansion, accelerated global growth and wealth redistribution to the emerging markets of the East post the end of SDR substitution reliquification in 2015?  The eventual peace treaty could usher in the third stage of the plan.

JC Collins  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 3:35 AM  I don’t see anything outside of the continuation of proxy wars. The mass movement of gold is forced by all out large warfare. The gold has been willingly moved this time. Proxy resource wars is the strategy for a diminishing USD industry and military. At least I hope so.

Norman Ball  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 1:14 AM  just a note to say I’m unable to post to your blog. I wonder if others are having a similar problem.  Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 19:45:20

JC Collins  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 1:20 AM  I’m also having a few issues over the last few days. Not sure what’s causing it.

Roger Parness  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 5:52 AM  Me too. Can’t post from work where I usually do so. Figure y’all miss my acerbic wit and brilliant insights.

Norman Ball  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 1:21 AM  Hah lol. I see from the above that you can post directly from email alerts. Interesting. So I was going to say…

“Do you see Saudis losing US protection against their internal and external enemies with a transition away from the petrodollar toward the SDR?” My take Matt is that the petrodollar is a mobius strip.

 The US mlitary is financed by the petrodollar which protects the Gulf states which finances the US military which is protected by the US military. How do you dismantle a mobius strip?

 Btw, the petrodollar peaked in 2006. Cheaper oil also reduces the efficacy of the petrodollar shield.

The Gulf will be a net importer of capital in 2015. Pax Americana is losing its underwriter. Who’s going to feed the military industrial complex? WW3? If it’s no longer paid to protect it must destroy.***

My perennial struggle is with intentionality and purposefulness versus crap just rolling down the hill forming an ever-growing snowball. Are the motives benign? Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 Benign motives can easily devolve into malign intent. Only a fool wouldn’t be nervous about having to get a home loan approved by Basel, Switzerland.

 Is the world staggering upwards through monumental greed or is this a directed rendezvous with a Dodd-Frank derivative *** complete with depositor wealth confiscation?

 How much of the solution is the Plan and how much of the solution is necessitated by our venal nature? Does it matter if we and They bumble us into a dystopia?

What’s the practical difference if it turns out to be an accidental dystopia?

Is the BIS catching us so we won’t fall like an attentive parent or does the BIS know that if it only waits it can catch us before we fall and make the whole escapade look like an attentive parent catching a wayward child, when in fact we are collapsing into a centuries-old trap?

Should we welcome our captors because our greed is destroying the planet?

 One of the funny things about gold-bugs is they salivate over $15,000/oz not realizing the dire context in which such an appreciation will occur.

Would you rather live in American society today at $1,200/oz or get a windfall and ‘enjoy’ it in Mad Max land? $15,000/oz gold suggests to me that a trip to 7-11 has a 50/50 chance of getting you shot, even before you can hand a gold nugget to the attendant for a Slurpee. Whee! Happy days! You don’t get that kind of price in Shangri La.

Matt McBride (@MattMhmmcbride)  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 2:29 AM  Hi Norman Thanks for the reply.

I agree that gold bugs are kidding themselves thinking prices will go to $15,000 per ounce.

I do believe however that the IMFs existing gold reserves will be critical to ensuring confidence in the masses of created SDRs.

It would also make sense for the IMF to include gold in the SDR, with countries like China (with excess gold reserves) substituting Gold for SDRs and votes…further strengthening the IMFs gold reserves, and ability to expand the liquidity of the SDR in the multi national corporate and commercial banking sphere.

The IMF HQ would have to be in Chinas FTZ for the PBOC to be happy to do that.

http://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/files/chathamhouse/field/field_document/0212gt_schenk1.pdf

chuc1997  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 3:05 PM  Gold at $15,000 is entirely possible.

Money is determined by what oil says it is, end of discussion. That is why US has scrambled to increase its production.

If Saudi, Russia and China say oil trade between them will be settled at 200 barrels per ounce of gold, who will deny their ability to do so?

This may sound irrational because it prices gold at $10,000/oz, but is it irrational?

Or is it irrational to sell oil for the IOU’s of a broke country or the “super-IOU’s” of the monetary authority that broke country created post-WWII and forced other nations to listen too but then won’t listen to when it came time for the broke country to take it’s own medicine?

Gold at $15,000 will not require mad max, I assure you. Merely a well-timed “leak” noting that partners russia and China and Saudi are now settling oil trade in gold at 200 bbls/oz or more.

JC Collins  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 3:42 PM  The IMF was not created by the United States, nor was the USD reserve system. The were used by a larger international banking conglomerate, which included China and Russia. We haven’t lived in a US dominated world for the last 70 years, it only appears that way.

We have lived in a supra-soveriegn banking structure which used the USD system and American military to expand its reach.

Now this same supra-sovereign banking structure is transitioning from a USD reserve system to a SDR reserve system. Gold will play a hand, as it did in the original Bretton Woods, but not as a full gold standard.

 How would you address the inherent depreciation which has been a direct result of every gold standard? Logistically, the idea of using gold to balance world trade is unworkable on so many levels.

The freight and storage alone would drive systemic cost over runs. Using paper gold certificates instead of moving actual gold just brings the whole system back into the potential of manipulation and dysfunction. Saudi, Russia, and China have all committed to the multilateral monetary framework.

These facts are conveniently left out of analysts that conclude $10,000 gold is just around the corner.

Some regional agreements may temporarily use gold to balance while the SDR system continues to be arranged and implemented, but you will never see it as the global reserve unit of account.

 Bruno de Landevoisin  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 1:41 PM  I trust the monetary authorities setting up the The Multilateral System are more competent than the current authorities handling terrorist apprehension operations:   http://zirpqe.wordpress.com/2015/01/11/curious-charlie-carnage/

Steve Henningsen (@Stevephenni)  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 5:21 PM  Strike this comment if already forwarded to you…

I found this interesting… http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/economist-2015-cover-filled-cryptic-symbols-dire-predictions/

Would love to have been in the Economists editing room while they were developing it.

David Aylward (@Aylward5)  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 7:09 PM  I am intrigued by the IMF paper written in 2012 by a Benes and Kumhof revisiting the “Chicago plan” of 100% backed reserves of base money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chicago_Plan_Revisited

It supposedly would take money/credit creation out of the hands of banks(currently creating 97%) and give it to the central bank(currently 3%). Steve Keen and Richard Werner have stated that credit creation could then be steered to more productive means by incentivising loans that increase sustainable GDP as opposed to bidding up financial assets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4Cm9HLJZwE&index=2&list=WL

This gentleman proposes the IMF do just that

http://www.voxeu.org/article/new-imf-reserve-currency

What is especially intriguing to me is the assertion that the US Treasury could make enough off seigniorage through the Fed to pay off the national debt. US citizens (any citizen in a participating country) would have their checking accounts fully backed by SDRs preventing runs on the bank and eliminating any foreign transactions fees(?).

I am obviously not a trained economist but just have a weird obsession with this so my thoughts stop here. I prefer to get rid of the good vs evil/master of the universe scenarios and look at things through how well intentioned humans (with possibly huge egos) in positions of relative power are being incentivized to act.

Norman Ball  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 9:18 PM  “We haven’t lived in a US dominated world for the last 70 years, it only appears that way. We have lived in a supra-soveriegn banking structure which used the USD system and American military to expand its reach. 

Now this same supra-sovereign banking structure is transitioning from a USD reserve system to a SDR reserve system.”

Yes I agree completely that the nation of America and its citizens are rather incidental if not hostage to the USD and the military indistrial complex. 

In some sense the Triffin Paradox has in fact relinquished its paradox. America is alone among nations in that it does not have an answerable national currency. This does not mean that the globalist tab run up under the auspices of the USD will repatriate like a bitch.

Steve Henningsen (@Stevephenni)  JANUARY 12, 2015 AT 9:04 PM  Appears someone else has been digging into China’s history related to SDR and gold.

http://www.bullionstar.com/blog/koos-jansen/wikileaks-1976-pboc-particularly-interested-in-gold-sdrs

http://philosophyofmetrics.com/2015/01/08/china-saudi-arabia-forcing-usd-acquiesce/

Comments On China & Saudi Arabia Forcing USD Part 1

THOUGHTS ON “CHINA & SAUDI ARABIA FORCING USD ACQUIESCE” Part 1

chuc1997  JANUARY 8, 2015 AT 8:21 PM  You can tell how important a story is by how much it shows up in western media.  This was was not printed anywhere.

If 1m b/d of saudi oil was no longer priced in usd but in yuan, what would happen to the relative strength of the USD?  The dollar would skyrocket…just like it has done.

irrelevant111  JANUARY 8, 2015 AT 8:46 PM  Curious how you’ve determined QE has dried up. Appears so much occurs behind closed doors to make that assertion.

Daneackerman  JANUARY 8, 2015 AT 8:58 PM  Thank you JC for your clear and concise essays. You continue to enhance my knowledge through them. There are a couple things I would like to know a little further however, any updates on the e-publication you are working on?
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Ozymandias 3  JANUARY 8, 2015 AT 9:12 PM  We have not seen anything yet. I expect a continured dip in prices for about the next six months (deflation) followed by a massive rise in prices (inflation) as tons of $USDs return to the roost and the cocks in Washingtions.

Matt McBride (@MattMhmmcbride)  JANUARY 8, 2015 AT 9:24 PM  I heard an interesting tid bit this week that we use approx 1/10th of an ounce of silver per year with all the technology in our lives. Despite improvements and efficiency, this annual consumption will increase.

The move toward solar over the next decade will put additional pressure on silver production and prices.

Once the floor is eventually reached on this deflationary period, the dust settles, and the SDR reliquification begins, there will be some great undervalued commodity and resource productive investments to snap up.

matt (@speedspirit42)  JANUARY 9, 2015 AT 2:23 PM  Solar technology is very price dependent on cost of silver and with oil prices seeing new lows everyday, cost to install solar will be irresistibly low.

 Historic average price of oil has been 7.2% a ounce of Gold. A few months ago Gold lead the trend down, oil was priced too high and now it has reversed. If oil stays here Gold needs to be priced at $700 a ounce.

That being said Silver will test support at $12. Building solar panels with Silver at $12 and oil at $50 or $40 should create a demand for those with a vision of the future and higher oil prices due to mid east regional instability.

 Above ground quantities of Silver will be used up and then what, no longer will the Gold to Silver ratio be 70-1. More like 20-1 or less. And if Gold is added to the SDR basket then it fundamentally needs to be much higher then $700 to compensate for all the fiat in existence and all the defaulting sovereign debts.

May take a few years to play but but I see no other option then new highs for Gold and silver by 2020.

 By then it will be rather difficult to find any to purchase. Might even be illegal, part of National Security.

And I have been thinking does it matter the price of purchasing precious metals ? Would I rather own stocks in some company that exploits natural resources, that lobbies to corrupt government and makes unmoral decisions in the name of profit.

 Do I ever want to support that system? And in the name of fiat? Why would I want more fiat?

So why should we all be so consumed with SDR’s? Should we not be expending our time, energy and effort to create a world we rather see exist? Or a community?

Should like minded people just get up and move to some agreed on location that can provide a better quality of life? Is that not a public vote that says we the people are taking responsibility for our freedom and the cost of freedom?

Sorry for the rant, I hope some of you have thought these same questions and I am curious to your thoughts. Thanks.

Pushkara Sally Ashford  JANUARY 11, 2015 AT 8:41 PM  Yours is not a single voice in the wilderness, although how many of us are together in this stand of trees is yet to be assessed. Abundance and prosperity do not depend upon corrupt and short-sighted strategies. Many more of us are stepping into the better world you allude to. Hang in there.

tristero888  JANUARY 8, 2015 AT 9:24 PM  tangential, but causally connected?

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2014/12/big-news-more-tariffs-on-solar-panels-from-china

“US Commerce Departments finds China –- and now Taiwan — guilty of dumping solar panels and silicon on US soil.”

it’s a ** shame that US did not use all that QEflated liquidity to expand into renewables, etc. to at least give future generations something besides a sinkhole to stand in, instead of blowing it on swinging a geopolitical bully club and financing a frack-a-thon on behalf of their hustler banks and BigCorps.

oh well. Amerikanos better brush up on their post-war British history because there appears to be a sequel in pre-production stateside. coming straight to cable before you know it.

Ozymandias 3  JANUARY 8, 2015 AT 9:33 PM  There is a slowdown in the world economies as well as dramatic increases in available supplies from fracking, but the sudden drops in crude oil prices are not the primary result of lower demands.

 The House of Saud is also making a serious political statement that they will not tolerate competition. I expect oil to continue to be lowered down to nearly $20/b and stay there for awhile with the specific intent of the Saudis to punish and drive away all fracking businesses except for a very select chosen few who can afford to maintain the drilling business.

By keeping prices down for an extended period after the junk bonds default, as well increasing production level, they are sending very clear messages for those that are smart enough to watch and listen. There recent contracts with China are not for accident or drill either (pun intented). Human events have a history and pattern of becoming very nasty and violent over oil.

tristero888  JANUARY 9, 2015 AT 3:51 AM  Going beyond conventional fracking with Aramco

Aramco takes a look at new ways to develop fracking technologies

http://arabianindustry.com/oil-gas/news/2014/may/26/going-beyond-conventional-fracking-with-aramco-4709601/#.VK9Me4eJJKo

“The workshop served as the basis for inviting proposals and collaborative partnerships on the subject of hydraulic fracturing that will be conducted primarily from the Houston R&D center.

“Our workshop shared Saudi Aramco’s challenges, which are also the challenges of the greater industry,” said Mustafa Al-Ali, director of ASC Research & Development.

 “We are investing for the long-term and are riding the technology development curve to create new and novel fracturing approaches while seeking shorter term, interim solutions.””

Susan Morris  JANUARY 8, 2015 AT 10:26 PM   ‘acquiescence’?

JC Collins  JANUARY 9, 2015 AT 2:38 AM  ac·qui·esce   verb ˌa-kwē-ˈes

: to accept, agree, or allow something to happen by staying silent or by not arguing

patriciasmith03  JANUARY 8, 2015 AT 11:45 PM  Today I read the following in vineyardsaker.co.nz which is the oceanic version of vineyardsaker.

“Starting today, December 22, 2014, fluctuations in precious metal prices, which were not truly free of manipulation, will be strictly regulated in US markets.

 The dollar’s value in terms of gold will be an officially set constant amount and will in no way be representative of any inability to buy an ounce of gold, even for an astronomical amount of dollars.”

How do you think this will affect the SDR process you describe in your articles  Regards

Dripfood  JANUARY 9, 2015 AT 9:11 AM  JC, it could also be concluded that the Saudies (rightly) predict they will never exhaust their oil wells, due to a certain and ever continuing decrease in world oil demand due to a rapid adoption of cleaner and safer energy technologies on a worldwide scale after the transition to the multilateral GFS.

Susan Morris  JANUARY 9, 2015 AT 11:16 AM  Dear JC,  Thanks again for a clear, precise explanation of what is happening.  You strongly imply that last-minute territorial or resource gains will be taken account of in the new system. Does that mean that there will be no ‘day of reckoning’ for theft?

I read recently, as well as all of the Ukraine shenannegins, that Dubai was moving the Masaïi off of the Serengheti, as they had just bought it (or something like that). Who will be left holding the rights to land and resources and commodities, and who decides?

Ozymandias 3  JANUARY 9, 2015 AT 6:50 PM  If such a story is correct, then I would not think that the the Masaïi would peacefully depart the plains and hills of the Serengheti

Susan Morris  JANUARY 10, 2015 AT 4:19 PM

http://www.metronews.fr/info/tanzanie-des-milliers-de-maasai-pousses-a-quitter-leurs-terres/mnkr!96qU96uUG4s6/

toknowyourenemy  JANUARY 9, 2015 AT 3:40 PM   Brandon Smith has done an excellent job for those people who do more than just talk.

 His posts are gaining real traction on many sites and recently, as it relates to that group of men who feel the need to play head games with the worlds inhabitants, he has ‘rung the bell’ – 

penning this first rate piece. No doubt many of you already have read it, but it should be read, studied, and forwarded to each and every person you know – 

even the ones you’re not sure how they’ll react……it’s time. http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2462-we-are-entering-an-era-of-shattered-illusions

Learning in the meantime – thank you Mr. Collins for your time and diligence – about the mechanics of the proposed changes, has at some point got to translate into actionable steps. 

We don’t have to leave the classroom forever, but we will increasingly need more playtime since

painting a beautiful picture in exquisite detail of the giant wave approaching and doing nothing about our personal safety, is a foolish use of valuable time. 4th Turnings expend their energies completely. 

Beware of linear thinkers who attack cyclical time and propose linear solutions such as SDR’s as a panacea for all that ill’s mankind. Cui bono, right?

Comments may be made at the end of Part 2  Thank You

Backdoc Monday Afternoon Post – OILS’ IMPACT ON DEFLATION

(Thank you Backdoc for emailing this to Dinar Recaps.)

OILS’ IMPACT ON DEFLATION – IMO

OVER THE WEEKEND WE SEE IRAQ LOWERED OIL PRICES TO EUROPE BUT RAISED THEM TO ASIA!

TIME TO COMPLETE THE CONTAINMENT OF THE BRICS, ESPECIALLY CHINA SINCE THIS WILL BLEED THEM OVER TIME!

OIL CONTINUES ITS DOWNWARD TREND!

AS THE STOCK MARKET BEGINS SOME RE-PRICING LOWER SOME THINK THERE WILL BE SAFETY IN GOLD, HENCE THE LITTLE BUMP AS OF LATE!

ONCE THE BRICS BEGIN TO BACK THEIR FALLING CURRENCIES MOST LIKELY HARD CURRENCIES AND GOLD WILL BE DUMPED TO PREVENT THE SLIDE AS IN THE CASE OF THE RUBLE WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN!!

CORRECTIONS ARE ALWAYS STEEP AND FAIRLY QUICK! I DON’T THINK IT WILL TAKE MUCH LONGER FOR OIL TO FIND A BOTTOM!

WHAT WE ARE WAITING FOR TO HAPPEN IS EVIDENCE OF FRACKING OR OTHER AREAS IN THE WORLD WITH HIGH EXTRACTION COSTS TO BEGIN COMMING OFF LINE, THA’T’S WHEN WE KNOW OIL WILL COME OUT OF CONTANGO AND FIND A BID!!

THEREFORE WE NEED TO LOOK FOR ARTICLES THAT SHOW US THAT, THEN WE SHOULD BE IN A STABLE OR RECOVERY MODE ON THE OIL PRICE!

IT SUSPECT THE EMPIRE WILL KEEP THE COST LOWER TO EMPIRE COUNTRIES AS EVIDENCED BY IRAQS MOVE THIS PAST WEEKEND. CHINA WILL CONTINUE TO PAY A PREMIUM.

THIS SHOULD BEGIN TO OPEN UP THE DOORS FOR VIETNAM TO BEGIN ITS GROWTH IN OIL AND GAS!

IF THE VIETNAM CAN CAPURE A LOT OF CHINAS’ BUSINESS AND THEY CONTINUE TO TRADE IN VND THE CURRENCY, VELOCITY FOR THE VND WILL PICK UP SUBSTANTIALLY OPENING UP THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A REALISTIC RATE OF SIGNIFICANCE!

WITH THE VND CURRENTLY PEGGED TO THE DOLLAR CHINA IS THE LOSER FOR NOW!

IMO

8@8, DOC

Late Sunday Night Jester Chat: “Wrap Up and Q&A” Part 3

PART 3

[kristi] Jester: So, why wouldn’t they want all the dinar peeps in the groups of the UST. Whose advantage is it to get the street rate? Not Iraq and not the UST. “Who does that make sense to?”

[Jester] kristi SOME PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO GO THE GROUP WAY BECAUSE OF ALL THE BAD GURU PRESS ABOUT IT… NOT MY ISSUE… DID THE HOMEWORK… DEPENDS ON WHO YOU BELEIVE I SUPPOSE…

[Jester] I SUPPOSE THE HYPE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT TOO… IF YOU THINK YOU CAN GO TO THE BANK TOMORROW EVERY DAY WHY GO THERE… BUT HISTORY HAS PROVEN THAT IS ALL A LOAD OF BS… SO I CANNOT SAY WHY PEOPLE DON’T WAKE UP TO THAT ONE… HAHAHAHAHA

[SoldierofChrist] Jester should we be expecting an interesting week with all the pressures being built up
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[Jester] SoldierofChrist I DOUBT THIS WEEK WILL HOLD ANY SURPRISES AT THE LEVEL YOU CAN SEE…

[kristi] I understand about trusting the group. What I don’t understand is who is the profiteer from the street rate? It seems that it actually hurts Iraq as they have to put out currency rather than long term oil contracts. It wouldn’t seem to matter to the UST. So who is making the money from the no groups?

[mentoredlife] Kristi I believe from Jester’s description above it’s the banks that benefit from you exchanging with them rather than as part of the group. Banks = Federal Reserve = Cabal. They profit from you not being part of a UST group.

[Jester] mentoredlife NOT SURE EVEN HOW MUCH PROFIT THAT IS SINCE IT IS THE STREET RATE… JUST THE FEES AFTER ALL…

[jbmeans] Jester so haven’t the peeps in the groups been somewhat checked out, therefore trustworthy of the high rate and then they would not want to necessarily pay a high rate to those not in the group as “anyone” could then have access to huge sums of $?

[Jester] jbmeans THAT IS TRUE ENOUGH TOO…. AND THEY HAVE NO USE FOR THAT DINAR AS IT IS JUST IN THE SYSTEM IN THE BANK… THEY CANNOT GET AT THAT INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE TRANSACTION THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT…

[Jester] IT WOULD BE WAY TOO CUMBERSOME AND NOT THAT EFFICIENT TO TRY TO CAPTURE THE INDIVIDUALS…

[jbmeans] Jester understood

[mentoredlife] Jester Good point. Although banks do make pretty good profits off of fees as it is. Why not take a cut of the IQD exchange if they can.

[texas1837] Jester so that would seem to be the way to go as an individual?

[Jester] THE GROUPS DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK VETTING ALL THE INFORMATION AND GETTING IT READY FOR THEM…

[Jester] texas1837 YOUR OTHER OPTION IS STILL THE GENERAL64 GROUP… HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING IS WORKED OUT THERE AND THEY GET THAT DONE…

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[dave_144] Jester I just saw where the French president inferred the attack on Henbo was Illuminati. Have they lost control of one of their allies?

[Jester] dave_144 NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN… NOT ALL THE FRENCH ARE BAD GUYS ANY MORE THAN ALL AMERICANS ARE BAD GUYS EITHER… THE PEOPLE ARE NOT RUNNING THIS SHOW…

[Jester] LETS THINK FOR A MINUTE OF WHO BENEFITS FROM ALL THAT… CAUSES A LOT OF MISDIRECTION AND POINTS FINGERS THAT CAUSE DISSENSION… THAT WAS THE PURPOSE… ANOTHER FALSE FLAG WHERE INNOCENT PEOPLE DIED TO MAKE SOMEONE ELSE’S POINT AND GET RESULTS THEY LIKE TO HAVE… SAD REALLY… SEE THROUGH IT AND DO NOT BE HOODWINKED…

[dave_144] Jester I know we are running the show but I think it is very telling that Hollande almost calls the cabal out.

[dave_144] Jester I also see this as another problem created for the solution they want to impose on us to further erode our liberties, what we have left that is.

[Jester] UMMM… I THINK THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT I JUST SAID ISN’T IT?

[dave_144] Jester Yep but do you think this shows they may be losing control of some of their puppets?

[Jester] dave_144 I AM NOT FOLLOWING YOUR REASONING… WHO IS THE THEY YOU ARE SPEAKING OF?

[dave_144] Jester The puppet masters

[Jester] dave_144 OK… NOT FOLLOWING YOUR LOGIC… I THINK IT WAS DONE ON PURPOSE… SO THEY ARE THE ONES THAT DID IT IN THE FIRST PLACE… HOW CAN YOU LOSE CONTROL OF SOMETHING YOU DID YOURSELF?

[dave_144] Jester So I guess Hollande was just following his script.

[Jester] dave_144 MAYBE I DO NOT SEE IT THE SAME AS YOU… TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE SOME BAD GUYS CAME IN AND KILLED SOME INNOCENT PEOPLE TO START A RIFT BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND FRENCH PEOPLE.. OR MUSLIMS AND WHOEVER… FOR THEIR REASONING THIS FALSE FLAG IS TO DECEIVE AND DISTRACT EVERYONE SOME MORE…

[dave_144] Jester I agree with you on that I just find it very telling that Hollande used the term “Illuminati” in referring to the extremist who committed this crime.

[Jester] ANYONE ELSE GOT QUESTIONS TONIGHT?

[ajmaudio] well if nobody has a good one I’ll offer up a mediocre one???

[Jester] ajmaudio ANY QUESTION IS FINE… YOU ARE CRACKING ME UP….

[ajmaudio] Jester what do you think the odds are that somehow the PTB Have/Will work this “transitional” period out without a dramatic crash of some kind.. however that might.be..

[ajmaudio] maybe using proceeds form their own currency swap

[ajmaudio] so no big dollar crash.. more like a hiccup … oh hey btw we have all this money and are going to fix the “bubble” etc

[Jester] ajmaudio MAN THAT IS REALLY A HARD ONE… I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THAT ONE… RIGHT NOW I AM ON 50/50… BUT THE MORE THE EAST KEEPS WORKING FORWARD ON THE REPLACEMENT OF THE DOLLAR THE MORE I AM GOING TO MOVE TOWARD THE CRASH… AND HERE IS THE KICKER… A PERCENTAGE OF MY OPINION THAT IS SWAYING IS THE ONE THAT IS THINKING IT IS ALREADY PART OF THE PLAN…

[ajmaudio] I only ask as part of me thinks it makes sense that they would have something in the works to save face, and keep some loyalty, to perhaps carry on as it were to some point. I dunno…

[ajmaudio] ok.. so at least I am not alone in wondering

[ajmaudio] can I ask what makes you think its part of the plan?

[Jester] ajmaudio NOPE… IMAGINE THIS… YOU HAVE TWO SYSTEMS… NOT QUITE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE AT THIS POINT… THE UST AND THE FED… BUT YOU WILL LIKE TO MAKE THEM EXCLUSIVE IN THE END WITH ONE GOING AWAY… WHAT BETTER WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT THAN TO FUND ONE AND CRASH THE OTHER…

[ajmaudio] Looking at history… the PTB always find a way to cover their butts… and move along without tooooo much disturbance… somehow… and we are dumb enough to just take it and go along being squeezed for everything we have

[ajmaudio] I have thought about that… in that same line of thinking though… what if when they crash the one they are able to make a clean transition using funds obtained through this whole currency thing

[Jester] ajmaudio I HAVE TOLD YOU HOW THE UST COULD GET FUNDED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS WITH THE OIL CREDIT SCENARIO… THE UST HAS THE CONTRACTS NOT THE FED… KEEP THAT IN MIND…

[ajmaudio] exactly.. so I guess.. in that scenario.. why would they truly “crash it” as in a hard crash…

[Hoosier Girl] And it takes the dollar out of some bad peoples hands to.. No one will want it….

[Jester] AND THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER SCENARIOS THAT HAVE GONE BY THE WAY… AND THIS IS MY OPINION… I THINK FOR SOME REASONS THE PLANS HAVE CHANGED ALONG THE WAY SO THE FED WASN’T THE ONE COMING OUT ON TOP…THIS IS WHERE ALL THE DOLLAR REFUNDING STUFF GETS CLOUDY… AND I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO A DISCUSSION OF ALL OF THAT… BUT THINGS CHANGE…

[ajmaudio] Just like you mentioned that the printing of another trillion dollars didn’t even seem to make news…. makes you wonder

[ajmaudio] I guess we are in the same spot.. 50/50 but you have alot more to go on.

[ajmaudio] part of me is like… hold on to your britches… the other expects some ridiculous scenario where it all gets covered up as per normal

[Jester] REALIZE THAT THEIR IS A TENUOUS PLAN IN PLACE TO GET IT DONE TO THE BENEFIT OF WHAT IS LOOSELY TERMED THE REPUBLIC AND LET IT GO AT THAT…

[ajmaudio] ok… on that… and this is a big question.. how is that being headed up? seems like an enormous task to go up against the machine. At least from what we sheeple can see, the corporation owns this place

[ajmaudio] I can’t see that in my position… which makes it doubly intriguing

[Jester] ajmaudio IS GOING TO TAKE A BIT OF TIME TO UNDO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE… IT IS NOT GOING TO GET DONE OVERNIGHT… EVEN THOUGH THE THINGS THAT WERE DONE WERE NOT LEGAL IN THE STRICT SENSE OF THE WORD IT IS NOT LIKE YOU THINK… IT WAS DONE QUASI-LEGAL… AND IT WILL HAVE TO BE UNDONE THE SAME WAY…

[ajmaudio] Perhaps a better way to say it is that I don’t see any significant powers of good at work in the “goings on” of our gov.

[ajmaudio] TIme… for sure..not expecting fast.

[ajmaudio] am I just missing the good?

[ajmaudio] I do agree though… it certainly does seem like the entire world is pushing to end the dollar…. You kind of assume it will end with a boom. But we certainly don’t seem to worried about it

[Jester] ajmaudio NOT SURE YOU CAN SEE IT AT THIS LEVEL… BUT MAYBE THAT IS WHY THEY ARE NOT WORRIED… WHO KNOWS IF THAT IS PART OF THE PLAN…

[ajmaudio] well if one assumes we have a few trillion dinar as a country… things could be interesting I suppose

[ajmaudio] though I’d wonder what they would do with it.. cashing in for dollars wouldn’t exactly work now would it? lol

[ajmaudio] buy back some gold from china? lol.. as if they would let that much go…

[Jester] ajmaudio AS I SAID… WE EXPLAINED HOW ALL THAT WORKS WITH THE OIL CREDIT SCENARIO SOME TIME BACK…

[ajmaudio] Yes I recall more or less

[Jester] ajmaudio IF YOU WERE GOING TO BUY GOLD WHAT WOULD YOU BUY IT WITH AND WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IT?

[ajmaudio] personally? or in the above scenario

[Jester] ASK THE FED TO LOAN YOU SOME MORE MONEY TO PUT IN THE UST? I DOUBT THAT WOULD WORK… HAHAHAHAHHA
[ajmaudio] exactly my point lol

[Jester] OOPS… THAT SHOULD SAY… ASK THE FED TO LOAN YOU SOME MORE MONEY TO BUY SOME GOLD TO PUT IN THE UST?

[ajmaudio] funny thought considering our monetary policy as of late though

[ajmaudio] I followed lol

[Jester] SOME MAY NOT HAVE THAT IS WHY I REITERATED IT…

[ajmaudio] print another trillion.. why not right? Sheesh

[Jester] ajmaudio THEY WOULD NOT DO IT FOR THAT REASON…

[Jester] THAT WOULD BE AKIN TO SOMEONE LOANING YOU MONEY SO YOU COULD TAKE A HIT OUT ON THEM…. HAHAHHAHAH

[Aunt B] Lol

[ajmaudio] I do also wonder how/if all of the stuff coming out about 911 etc etc will play into all of this. on one hand that deal seems to be working to a boiling point.. on the other look at the JFK deal.. we all know that was bs but we dont do anything about it.

[ajmaudio] granted this thing is moving much faster courtesy of the inter web… smaller world

[ajmaudio] hahahaha.. Jester.. yes it would…kinda what the gov does to us as it is though if you think about it

[Jester] ajmaudio WE WILL SEE… THEY HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TAX MONEY OVER THE YEARS COVERING ALL THAT UP… STILL COSTING THEM TO MAKE THE SMART PEOPLE LOOK STUPID AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE CONSPIRACY NUTS…

[ajmaudio] ya… if the polls I have seen are true.. the majority don’t buy it.. but here we sit… that’s kinda nuts.

[ajmaudio] if this isn’t too far off topic… how about investing at a time when there is no safe way to invest conventionally.. ie stock market etc

[ajmaudio] there is gold…

[ajmaudio] real estate… which I’m not sure about… what else does one do if you assume the rest will pop in the future

[Jester] ajmaudio MY STANDARD ANSWER ON INVESTMENTS IS TO HIRE SOMEONE A LOT SMARTER AND EXPERIENCED THAT YOU CAN FIND IN ANY CHAT ROOM… HAHAHAHHAHA

[Yellow Rose Grandma] ajmaudio how bout buying interests into local companies?? I’m no expert but I do like to keep it local

[ajmaudio] sure… I was more curious about general concepts.. and to your point… good luck finding someone who won’t tell you to put it in a mutual fund etc

[ajmaudio] Yellow Rose… that’s what I am considering… in a crash that could also go south.. but in the short term perhaps… I was pondering how one actually does that earlier today

[Jester] Yellow Rose Grandma MUNICIPAL BONDS MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA… THAT PUTS THE MONEY TO WORK IN YOUR AREA… AND THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN PRETTY SAFE…

[grace2beme] Can you ever really own land in the United States?

[ajmaudio] mmm… not familiar.. have to look that up Jester

[ajmaudio] good question on the land…

[Jester] ajmaudio BONDS THAT FUND THE LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SCHOOLS AND SUCH…

[Jester] KEEP IT AT THE STATE OR LOCAL LEVEL.. PROBABLY MUCH SAFER… YOU DO NOT HEAR ABOUT ANY COUNTIES OR STATES DOING ANY BAIL INS… HAHAHAHAH

[ajmaudio] does that stay in tact in a big crash I wonder.. hard to predict I am sure…

[ajmaudio] good point

[Jester] JUST SOMETHING TO INVESTIGATE… OTHER THAN THAT HARD ASSETS ARE ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA…

[ajmaudio] I also thought about Land… but had same question… will it be mine?

[ajmaudio] PM and land… what other things constitute a hard asset…

[Jester] ajmaudio IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THIS MINUTE… GET SOME SILVER OR GOLD COINS… WHATEVER YOU CAN AFFORD…

[grace2beme] I mean you can buy land but yet for some reason you can’t pay the property taxes they will take it away from you so can you ever really own it?

[Jester] ajmaudio HARD TO SPEND IF YOU NEED FOOD… JUST SAYING…

[ajmaudio] ya.. working on that… you can at least hope it will hold its purchasing power as it has for so long.

[Jester] OK… SINCE WE ARE NOT INVESTMENT PROFESSIONALS LETS MOVE ON TO SEE WHAT grace2beme HAS TO ASK…

[grace2beme] Everyone always says invest in real estate.

[ajmaudio] yes.. in a truly dire situation.. hard hard crash.. boos, bullets, etc lol

[Jester] grace2beme LOST ABOUT $11 MILLION ON THAT DEAL WHEN THE HOUSING CRASH CAME AND THEY CHANGED ALL THE LENDING RULES… SO BEWARE…

[ajmaudio] its that intermediate crash, as we will call it, that seems harder to define a good path

[grace2beme] My question was can you ever really own property in the United States?

[Jester] ajmaudio SMOKES… THAT WILL BE A BIG ONE IF THINGS GO THAT FAR SOUTH…

[ajmaudio] ya.. the only safe part about land is that you can make food with it is what I am thinking as of late.. that is if you ever really own it

[ajmaudio] that too

[Jester] grace2beme WELL SURE YOU CAN… BUT THAT DOES NOT KEEP YOU FROM PAYING THE TAXES ASSOCIATED WITH IT IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING…

[ajmaudio] part of me doesn’t see it going thaaaat far.. but who am I…. I know squat

[grace2beme] Yeah that’s what I’m saying if you buy the land out right you still have to pay taxes on it and then what happens if you don’t pay the taxes they take it from you so can you ever really own it?

[Jester] ajmaudio IMAGINE HOW MUCH MORE YOU KNOW THAN THE AVERAGE SHEEPLE RIGHT NOW… JUST SAYING…

[ajmaudio] perhaps…. we won’t know till sometime down the road right? lol

[Jester] grace2beme TAXES ARE A FACT OF LIFE… WHY WOULD YOU BUY LAND THAT YOU CANNOT AFFORD THE TAXES ON?

[grace2beme] Well I wouldn’t but what happen if you became ill something else?

[Jester] THAT WILL BE A COMMON ISSUE WITH PEOPLE AND THEIR NEW FOUND WEALTH I AM TOLD…

[Jester] IT IS THE MOST COMMON MISTAKE THAT LOTTERY WINNERS MAKE ACCORDING TO THE STATISTICS…

[grace2beme] Just trying to make the point that as long as the government is the way it is we can’t ever really truly have anything that we can own for ourselves because they can always take it away!

[ajmaudio] I mean.. if it goes.. first thing down will be power… I’d think

[Jester] SO… ANYONE ELSE?… LET’S NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST SECOND TONIGHT… HAHAHAHAH

[ajmaudio] Jester ya… thats my plan if given the resources.. .that’s my plan in the long term if none of this happens as we think.. RV etc. Get a nice plot.. and build something for off grid. technology has come a long way


[Yellow Rose Grandma] Jester I have a question if I may. I am new here but here goes……….. This entire investment is very convoluted. Tons of really bad men and women jerking everyone and everything around. How does this investment come to fruition. How is it going of getting the FED out of control??

[SoldierofChrist] Great question tonight

[ajmaudio] Thats a Whopper Yellow Rose

[Yellow Rose Grandma] dang

[Yellow Rose Grandma] ajmaudio so I should keep it pithy?? lol lollol

[Jester] Yellow Rose Grandma HOLD ON A MINUTE… I AM NOT GOING TO GO OVER IT ALL AGAIN NOW BUT I WILL GET YOU A PREVIOUS POST TO READ…

[Jester] THE LIBRARIAN IS WORKING ON IT… HAHAHHAHAH

[Patience] Jester Chat Part 1 11/30/14 jester-at-jester-s-place-sun-part-1-11-30-2014-t1267.html

[Patience] Jester Chat Part 2 11/30/14 jester-at-jester-place-sun-part-2-11-30-2014-t1268.html

[Jester] OK THE LIBRARIAN HAS LOCATED THE PROPER LINKS… AND THEY SHALL BE DROPPED IN HERE SHORTLY…EVEN AS I SPEAK I SHOULD HAVE SAID… HAHAHAHAH

[Jester] Yellow Rose Grandma THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU A LOT OF BACKGROUND… IT WAS A GENERALLY WELL ACCEPTED POST THAT DID NOT GET ME A CALLING OUT BY OTHER CERTAIN KNOW-IT-ALLS…

[Jester] SO… ANY MORE QUESTIONS? BE QUICK OR I WILL LET THE MODS WRAP IT UP…

[BocaLinda] Jester are we any closer to the TRN?

[Jester] BocaLinda OF COURSE… ALWAYS ONE DAY CLOSER EVERY DAY…

[SoldierofChrist] Jester lol

[Jester] WELL? IT’S TRUE… HAHAHAHAH

[BocaLinda] ACK!!!

[SoldierofChrist] Jester i think i saw Jim Willie come out with a new podcast don’t know if you or anyone has looked into it yet

[BocaLinda] Jester ok. Try this one on. Got a smidgeon of hope for us tonite?

[Jester] AND YOU KNOW I DO NOT DO RATE OR DATE… BUT JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY… THE LAST TIME FRAME I GAVE WAS AFTER… REPEAT AFTER… THE 15TH… WHICH IS CLOSE… I ASKED EARLIER IF THAT NEEDED TO BE MOVED YET… AND DO NOT HAVE TO AT THIS TIME… NOW TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH FOLKS… WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT… IT IS THE INFORMATION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW… THAT IS ALL… WE WILL HAVE TO SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT… BUT I AM NOT EXPECTING ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER… REPEAT… AFTER THAT…

[Jester] SoldierofChrist I LISTENED TO IT… IS A PRETTY GOOD CAST… MORE OF THE SAME PREDICTIONS WE HAVE BEEN GETTING LATELY FROM HIM…

[ajmaudio] any chance we get to find out the significance of the 15th

[Jester] I WAS ACTUALLY AMAZED THEY HAVE NOT TAKEN EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE IT OUT… SO WE SHALL SEE IF SOMETHING IS INDEED IN THE WORKS…
[Betsy Ross] my fingers are still crossed

[BocaLinda] Lets hope!

[pollyp] Jester, there is SO much happening everywhere right now. It’s quite overwhelming to think what we would like to see right now could actually happen

[pollyp] I keep praying

[ajmaudio] I’m curious what is going on the 15th… or up unto then.. or whatever the case is

[SoldierofChrist] Jester faith in God and praying to move the mountains that need to be moved

[Jester] pollyp THE MISSING LINK IS WHETHER THE FED HAS TO CRASH OR NOT… THAT IS THE QUESTION IN MY MIND… BUT IT SURE LOOKS LIKE THAT IS THE BACK UP PLAN IF YOU ARE WATCHING THE NEWS…

[ajmaudio] mmm.. one wouldn’t think that would happen a week from now…

[ModelWoman] SoldierofChrist Amen ….praying The Cabal will be cast into the sea!

[ajmaudio] with no “build up” or prep for the masses

[LuCkYb] wouldnt break my heart if it happened 10 minutes from now lol

[pokerbrat] I want the FED to crash so I can pi $ on its grave.

[ajmaudio] time to put the fed to bed

[pollyp] I’m hoping and praying that whatever happens that the people who have been working and struggling and keeping their noses to the grindstone come out okay

[Jester] SEE YOU TOMORROW

Short Bulldog75 Q&A at OOM&F Sunday Night

OOM&F:

[.~Bulldog75] HOWDY EVERYONE:

[.~Bulldog75] HERE WE ARE 2015. FIREWORKS GALORE ON THE PLANET.

[.~Cindieloohoo] .~Bulldog75 Great to see you tonight!

 [.~Bulldog75] A QUICK Q AND A IF YOU LIKE; LOTS OF HOT TOPICS. LETS DO A 30 MIN Q AND A PLEASE. LET THE QUESTIONS FLY BUT PLEASE JUST ONE AT A TIME; TIL ANSWERED AND THEN NEXT PLEASE.

 [.~Cindieloohoo] .~Bulldog75 What progress have we made the last couple of weeks? Are we any closer?

[.~Bulldog75] .~Cindieloohoo ; PROGRESS YES. MUCH CLOSER; STILL BAD GUYS TO FLUSH DOWN THE TOILET AND THEY ARE NOT GOING EASY AND THEY ARE PROTECTED.
….

[txnative] What IYO,is left to be done?

[.~Bulldog75] txnative ; SINCERELY, THERE ARE AT LEAST 12 TOPICS OR ISSUES THAT CAN ANSWER THAT. EVERYTHING FROM: BANKERS, FED RES, CHINA CONVERTING US TREASURY BONDS TO HARD ASSETS , IMF, WORLD BANK, BIS, USA, IRAQ, DOLLAR/PETRO, WARS, …….JUST TO NAME A FEW.

[.~Bulldog75] THIS IS ALL INTER-TWINED.

[.~Bulldog75] ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IS THE BAD VS THE GOOD GUYS. AND THOSE TOPICS ABOVE ARE CO – MINGLED WITH THE LOT OF THEM.

[g-man] Bulldog with a list like that are looking at months before rv

[.~Bulldog75] g-man ; NO GUARANTEES; BUT THE DOLLAR IS PROPPED FOR A FEW MORE WEEKS. CHINA IS CONVERTING AND BUYING AND YOU CAN GUESS WHY…….RIGHT?

[.~Bulldog75] g-man ; MONTHS, IMHO, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH GCR/CE.

[txnative] Buulldog75 TH, I understand, this is going to be a long adventure.

[.~Bulldog75] txnative ; IT ALREADY HAS. :)

 [.~Cindieloohoo] .~Bulldog75 Indeed Sigh….

[.~Bulldog75] REMEMBER , PLEASE, WE ARE SEEING HISTORY RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES, AND THE PRE-CURSOR TO GCR.

[.~Cindieloohoo] .~Bulldog75 What in your opinion is next? What should we be looking for?

[.~Bulldog75] IT WILL BE A VOLATILE ROLLER COASTER BASED ON WHAT IS AND HAS DEVELOPED. REMEMBER TWO YEARS AGO, ; WE SAID THE MARKETS WILL WOBBLE 20-50% IN SOME CATAGORIES PRIOR TO CE.

[.~Bulldog75] THUS OIL, GOLD AND SILVER.

[.~Bulldog75] LOOK AT THEIR PRICES. WHAT HAS HAPPENED?

olefaithful] .~Bulldog75 Is there any gold or silver for us to buy? I heard it has all been sold to China.

[.~Bulldog75] CHINA HOARDS, BUYS, HOLDS, & PREPARED.

[dbailey48] .~Bulldog75 Why are some saying there will be no such thing as a GCR??

[.~Bulldog75] GOLD AND SILVER SINCE RECORDED HISTORY IS PRECIOUS. OIL NOW IN PICTURE . BUT LORDY BE “DERIVATIVES”. OH GEE, OH ME OH MY.

[.~Bulldog75] TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS THAT WILL WOBBLE THE WORLD.

[.~Bulldog75] olefaithful ; YES, NOW. GET IT WHILE ONE CAN. , IMHO IF ONE CAN SPARE. :) I LIKE IT. “DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NO INVESTMENT OR LEGAL ADVICE OR DIRECTIVES” . THANKS

[.~Bulldog75] DOLLAR WILL PROB CONTINUE TO RISE DURING JAN. ITS A FALSE LEADER. BLUE LIGHT SPECIAL….LOL

[.~Bulldog75] DOLLAR AND MARKETS PROPPED. BEWARE.

 [.LSUTIGER] With all the delays having happened , in your opinion is there anything to the rumor of this not happening on the O watch?

[.~Bulldog75] .LSUTIGER. ITS TRANSITION TIME. PUBS/DEMS RE-GROUPING SEEKING COMMON AND SAFE TERRITORY. THEY DONT LIKE THE LEADERSHIP. APPLES DONT FALL FAR FROM THE TREE. MANY ARE RUNNING FROM O GROUND LEVEL.


[~Bulldog75] CHINESE ARE BUYING PORT FACILITIES, MINING DEPOSITS, COMMERCIAL BLDGS, ENERGY CO. :) THEY ARE NO DUMMIES. SHANGHAI MARKET PLACE READY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD FINANCIALS DUE TO THE EAST HAVING MAJORITY OF GOLD, SILVER TO LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

[.~Bulldog75] THOSE IN PAPER WILL BE HURT THE MOST. COMMODITIES AND HARD GOODS APPEAR TO BE BEST BET. DO WHAT ONE CAN ., IMHO.

 [.~Bulldog75] HAVE ALL PAPERWORK READY, LEGAL AND OTHERWISE. EVERYTHING WILL MOVE QUICKLY. STAND STRONG AND TALL WHEN MARKET CHANGES. OIL PROB HEADED LOWER ALONG WITH TEMP SINK OF GOLD AND SILVER ONE MORE TIME. ON THE CE TIMING, COMMODITIES SOAR LIKE EAGLES. GOLD MAYBE TO $5,000 WITHIN 24 HOURS. THE EAST WILL TAKE CONTROL OF THE MARKETS WHEN GCR/CE ARRIVES

[.~Bulldog75] I AM ONLY THE MESSENGER. OUR TIME IS NEAR. WE ARE BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED. KNOW WE ARE LOVED AND PROTECTED BY THE HEAVENLY FATHER. OUR MANNA COMES. BLESSINGS.

[.~Bulldog75] MUST GO. GONE. AMEN.

[.~Bulldog75] PS; RATES STAY 3.33-11.11, IMHO.

Tlar & Member Discussion Of “Delete The Zeros” Part 3

Tlar & Member Discussion of “Delete The Zeros” Part 3  

Tlar:
   Brule, what you have is a nice find but it is not the article where Saleh talked specifically of 4 trillion circulating dinars.      Thank you for looking though. By the way the article you supplied showing that the deletion of the zero program is to be done using the “nominal rate” (exchange rate) is another great find. 

 If we can find the original article, I think we can determine the approximate # of dinars still left in circulation today or at least we can come close.  

Remember they only printed 5 trillion dinars to replace the existing currency.  This also supports this argument.  Another clue is the article that stated they only printed 5 trillion dinars to replace the existing, vulnerable to counterfeiting currency, also stated the #2.7 billion USD worth or currency that was to be replaced.  This too gives a more recent clue.  
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We know the bank would print more than they need as to not run out. 

We know that bills printed but not released is notes that does not need to be covered by the reserves so it does not hurt them to print more than they need at any time. 

It is only once it is released and circulating in Iraq that it is considered “CIRCULATING”.  2.7 billion USD x’s 1166 = 3.1 trillion notes they intended to switch out. 

That is a decrease from the 4 trillion that Saleh had mention in the first months of 2012. 

They printed the 5 trillion in July/August of 2013, so we can establish the fact that over a year and 4 to 6 months they dollarized another trillion dinars. 

We know the auctions are still going on so we can assume dollarization is ongoing.  If all they need July/August of 2013 to cover “CIRCULATING DINARS” i believe we can roughly guess that today they “CIRCULATING DINARS” are between 2 trillion and 2.5 trillion and maybe even a little lower. 

If this is anywhere accurate that means they have over a 100 billion USD in reserves plus the gold and whatever  is sitting at BIS to cover 2-2.5 trillion dinars. 

2 trillion dinars expressed in USD is 2.3 billion USD.  Again look at the numbers. 

They have arguably a couple of 100 billion to cover 2.3 billion circulating. 

This is an unheard of number in covering a countries currency. 

Another point that I have tried to argue is why do they need to cover their currency 50-75 times or more over.  Simple answer to me is they are getting ready to explode the currency.  More later.  Fuzzy math?  Yes.  Numbers real far off?  I don’t think so.   Tlar

Mike:  Glad to help, Tlar.  Can you help me with your last post?  Let’s suppose that Iraq has 2 trillion dinars in circulation today (M1).  If Iraq RV’d their currency at 1-1 that would mean the CBI reserves would now have to cover $2 trillion dollars. 

How would the CBI reserves of roughly $65 billion dollars be able to cover $2 trillion dollars?  ( as a note, the US has roughly 1.4 trillion in circulation )  

For me, it would seem that Iraq would have to basically remove all of the dinar, save maybe 100 billion and then RV.  Other than working back from Salah’s statements, is there anyone who can tell me how much Iraq has in circulation?

Tlar:  Mike, we are leaving to go to my daughters house.  I  will answer you as best I can this afternoon.  Remember, anything I say in support of the rate will be speculation on my part only.  If we can find the Saleh article it will lend a great deal of support to the argument.  Tlar

Jeff19:  Iraq fifth between Arabs and 37 of the world gold reserves rank

Agency eighth dayJanuary 11, 2015, 13:08    BAGHDAD – ((eighth day))

World Gold Council, said Sunday that Iraq was ranked 37 globally and fifth gold reserves of the Arab world, while the United States ranked first globally the first Arab and Saudi Arabia.

The council said in a report seen ((eighth day)), it said that “the International Monetary Fund deploy during his current 2015 that Iraq was ranked 37 globally out of 100 countries were included in the report of the gold reserves,” noting that “Iraq’s gold reserves totaled 89.8 tons. “

World Council added that “Iraq occupied Arab fifth place after Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Algeria and Libya,” he said, adding that “the value of gold stood at 4.9% of Iraq Ahitattiyat of hard currency.”

The Council noted that “the United States, which has more than 8133 tons, ranked first for the gold reserves, followed by Germany in second place, while Albania ranked last of possessing one tonne and 600 kilograms.”

The central bank bought in March for the purchase of 36 tons of pure gold bullion, indicating that the bullion purchased are of very high purity and in accordance with international standards.

http://8th-day.com/?p=91287

Mike:  I don’t know, Blue, Turkey has over 130 billion in reserves, Mexico has 196 billion, and Saudi Arabia has 700 billion. We tend to give these guys too much credit, in the end, they’re still a 3rd world ME country. If you have a chance, check out Wikipedia list of countries reserves, it’s pretty impressive.

Mystic137:     from Wikipedia   Foreign-exchange reserves (also called Forex reserves) are, in a strict sense, only the foreign-currency deposits held by national central banks and monetary authorities (See List of countries by foreign-exchange reserves (excluding gold)).

 However, in popular usage and in the list below, it also includes gold reserves, special drawing rights (SDRs) and International Monetary Fund (IMF) reserve position because this total figure, which is usually more accurately termed as official reserves or international reserves or official international reserves, is more readily available.

These foreign-currency deposits are the financial assets of the central banks and monetary authorities that are held in different reserve currencies (e.g. the U.S. dollar, the Euro, the Japanese yen and the Pound sterling) and which are used to back its liabilities (e.g. the local currency issued and the various bank reserves deposited with the central bank by the government or financial institutions).

 Before the end of the gold standard, gold was the preferred reserve currency. Some nations are converting foreign-exchange reserves into sovereign wealth funds, which can rival foreign-exchange reserves in size.

 The list below is mostly based on the latest available IMF data and includes both sovereign states and non-sovereign territories (such as Hong Kong and Macau, which are under the sovereignty of the People’s Republic of China).

While most nations report in U.S. dollars, a few nations in Eastern Europe report solely in Euros. And since all the figures below are in U.S. dollar equivalence, exchange rate fluctuations can have a significant impact on these figures.

 For consistency, forward currency swap contracts are not included in this list until they mature; figures that include them may be higher or lower than those listed here. IMF or other outstanding loans are also not shown here; if they were accounted for, many nations would list lower.

  Rank   Country   Foreign exchange reserves  (Millions of US$)

 Figures as of

  1 People’s Republic of China[1] 3,945,932 Sep 2014[1]

2 Japan 1,269,079 Nov 2014[2]

3 Saudi Arabia 740,400 Nov 2014[3]

4 Switzerland 526,172 Nov 2014[4]

5 Republic of China (Taiwan) 426,438 Nov 2014[5]

6 Russia 388,500 Dec 26, 2014[6][7]

7 Brazil 375,426 Nov 2014[8]

8 Republic of Korea 363,095 Nov 2014[9]

– Hong Kong 327,930 Nov 2014[10]

9 India 319,998 Dec 19, 2014[11][12]

10 Singapore 260,553 Nov 2014[13]

11 Mexico 196,719 Nov 2014[14]

12 Germany 194,016 Nov 2014[15]

13 Algeria 192,500 Dec 2013[16]

14 Thailand 158,544 Nov 2014[17]

15 France 141,944 Nov 2014[18]

16 Italy 141,609 Nov 2014[19]

17 United Kingdom 139,476 Nov 2014[20]

18 United States 133,834 Dec 12, 2014[21]

19 Turkey 133,452 Nov 2014[22]

20 Malaysia 125,731 Nov 2014[23]

21 Libya 120,900 Dec 2013[16]

22 Indonesia 111,144 Nov 2014[24]

23 Poland 100,394 Nov 2014[25]

24 Israel 86,314 Nov 2014[26]

25 Philippines 78,679 Nov 2014[27]

26 Denmark 76,259 Oct 2014[28]

27 Canada 74,111 Nov 2014[29]

28 Iraq 71,240 Dec 2013[16]

29 Iran[2] 68,060 Dec 2013[16]

30 Norway 66,683 Nov 2014[30]

31 Sweden 63,115 Nov 2014[31]

32 Peru 62,982 Dec 7, 2014[32]

33 United Arab Emirates 58,040 Dec 2013[16]

34 Czech Republic 54,506 Nov 2014[33]

35 Australia 52,426 Nov 2014[34]

36 Lebanon 51,950 Dec 2013[16]

37 Spain 49,093 Nov 2014[35]

38 South Africa 48,679 Oct 2014[36]

39 Colombia 46,874 Nov 2014[37]

40 Qatar 46,457 Nov 2014[38]

Mystic137:  from Wikipedia  Gold reserves per capita

 Official U.S. gold reserve since 1900

The IMF regularly maintains statistics of national assets as reported by various countries.[9] These data are used by the World Gold Council to periodically rank and report the gold holdings of countries and official organizations.

Changes in Central Bank Gold Reserves by Country 1993-2014

The gold listed for each of the countries in the table may not be physically stored in the country listed, as central banks generally have not allowed independent audits of their reserves. Gold leasing by central banks could place into doubt the reported gold holdings in the table below.[10]

As at January 2015 (Top 40 based on World Gold Council data)

Rank      Country/Organization    Gold holdings

(in tonnes)          Gold’s share of  forex reserves

1              United States  8,133.5    71.6%

2              Germany  3,384.2             66.4%

3              International Monetary Fund  2,814.0     N.A.

4              Italy  2,451.8       65.8%

5              France  2,435.4     65.3%

6              Russia  1,187.5     10.8%

7              China  1,054.1      1.0%

8              Switzerland  1,040.0        7.5%

9              Japan  765.2          2.3%

10           Netherlands  612.5          53.9%

11           India  557.7         6.6%

12           Turkey  533.0     15.2%

13           European Central Bank   503.2    26.8%

14           Taiwan  423.6     3.8%

15           Portugal  382.5                  78.1%

16           Venezuela  367.6              68.9%

17           Saudi Arabia  322.9          1.6%

18           United Kingdom  310.3                  10.8%

19           Lebanon  286.8             21.2%

20           Spain  281.6                 21.8%

21           Austria  280.0              40.7%

22           Belgium  227.4           33.8%

23           Philippines  195.0             9.3%

24           Kazakhstan  187.6            24.9%

25           Algeria  173.6               3.4%

26           Thailand  152.4                  3.7%

27           Singapore  127.4               1.8%

28           Sweden  125.7               7.6%

29           South Africa  125.2           9.8%

30           Mexico  122.8               2.4%

31           Libya  116.6                4.5%

32           Greece  112.4         69.4%

33           Bank for International Settlements    111.0           N.A.

34           South Korea  104.4          1.1%

35           Romania  103.7                  9.1%

36           Poland  102.9                3.9%

37           Iraq  89.8                  4.9%

38           Australia  79.9                    5.8%

39           Kuwait  79.0            8.2%

40           Indonesia  78.1                  2.7%

Comments may be made at the end of Part 4  Thank You 

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News, Rumors, and Opinions in Dinarland Sunday Night

Stage3Alpha:

R.V. / GCR January 10, 2015 at 6:17pm

Just for skits and giggles, the time line will be moved by the super computer to include the smoke and its mirrored ball full of mis- information, disinformation…

The treaty still needs to get signed. Some said the F & P payouts first , then project funding …wow,some of this has begun…hahaha sucks to be last don`t it.

 Then Mike Cottrell, but the rumor is the Timber Trust will be snatched by the treasury to back the new dollar …. Then we hear about the global settlements on the 15th and the payouts on historical bonds on the 19th and…and…and….

New scenario…. treaty signed tomorrow at 5:55 Allows asset currency first trades set before and until 15th …..the bonds still finalize on 19th…. public… the not internet folks on 20th……Timber….
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Austin-Powers-For-PM > R.V. / GCR P.T.  let me see if I can interpret what you are saying here.  There will be final signatures on a treaty tomorrow that allows asset-backed currencies (i.e. Dinar) to hit the market on Monday the 12th.  

This might be the RI we’ve heard about.  Then on the 15th the Historical Bonds pay out and are available for currency backing starting on the 19th.  The public then starts exchanging from the 20th onwards.

However groups can start immediately, and internet folks can go in now to accept the RI rate prior to a full-scale RV on the 19th.   Am I getting that right?

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OilRat January 10, 2015 at 4:57pm

Common sense is the best analogy to figure out what the outcome will most likely be……JMO

1-10-2015 sczin11 REMEMBER, OIL WAS $32/BARREL WHEN THE RATE WAS $3.22!

 ALSO I ASK, WHAT IF THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE, AND MID YEAR OIL FELL DRASTICALLY? WOULD THE COUNTRY SHUT DOWN AND IMPLODE? UNDERSTAND MY OPINION HERE?

[THE ONE THING THATS NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION IS WHEN IT WAS 3.22 AND OIL WAS 32.00 A BARREL THEY WERE NOT TRYING TO REBUILD THE COUNTRY FROM WAR.]

CORRECT, AND THEY ALSO WEREN’T PUMPING WHAT THEY ARE TODAY, AND DIDNT HAVE THE WORLD SUPPORT THEY HAVE TODAY, AND HADN’T FOUND GAS THEY HAVE TODAY, AND DIDN’T HAVE GOLD LIKE THEY HAVE TODAY, FOR STARTERS.

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I4U:

[ready4riches] ..SweetQueen did you read #13 of Michael Cottrells expose regarding no release of funds for revaluation except for funding of republic

(See Michael Cottrels Letter Below)

[..SweetQueen] ready4riches YES I READ IT AND KNEW ABOUT IT AS WELL.

[ready4riches] ..SweetQueen i am trying to understand if this means we will not see reval until the republic is reinstated

[ready4riches] ..SweetQueen so does it mean what it appears to mean regarding rv

[..SweetQueen] MICHAEL COTRELL WILL BE THE PERSON BEHIND WITH THE FUNDING OF THE DOLLAR PROJECT, SOOOO UNTIL HE GETS PAID WE WILL NOT SEE OUR BLESSING IS THE WAY I AM BEING TOLD.

[..SweetQueen] ready4riches THIS IS THE REASON THE PRESSURE IS ON FOR MICHAEL COTRELL TO GET PAID. ONCE THIS HAPPENS WE WILL ALL HAVE OUR BLESSING.

[ready4riches] ..SweetQueen well considering the way the bankers are going with theft i am sure that it is better to wait till these things are resolved ty

[ready4riches] i am disappointed though and hope we don’t have to wait much longer. i know it has to be done right or we lose our money after rv imo

[..SweetQueen] ready4riches EXACTLY WHAT MANY BEHIND THE SCENES ARE PUSHING FOR… IT WILL DO NO GOOD TO ANYONE TO EXCHANGE AND HAVE YOUR MONEY STOLEN BY THE BANKERS.

[trevorlogan] I’m not doubting you at all SweetQueen, but that in which you are saying is extremly hard for me to beleive.

 [..SweetQueen] trevorlogan OUR COUNTRY IS BANKRUPT AND MICHAEL COTRELL WILL FUND THE UST FOR THE DOLLAR FUNDING PROJECT.

[ready4riches] ..SweetQueen exactly. there a bunch of toothless crackheads running this country rofl

[trevorlogan] How far can $55billion go?????

 [..SweetQueen] trevorlogan HE IS OWED TRILLIONS.

 [ready4riches] maybe this thing with Michael Cottrell is part of the reason so many bankers suicidal or being arrested ya think?

 [trevorlogan] Then why is this not mainstream thinking, again this is back channel thinking. Not to say it isn’t true, but then everyone one and I mean everyone that is on all chat sites all the articles out of Iraq are wrong???

[..SweetQueen] trevorlogan DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR MEDIA IS NOT CENSORED?  THIS IS MUCH BIGGER THAN IRAQ…. AND THEY ARE USING THE IQD AS THE CATALYST FOR THE GCR.

 [trevorlogan] SweetQueen it’s all censored and Gov’t are paid employees of the bad guys, the Banks are broke I get all that.

[..SweetQueen] HAD THIS BEEN ABOUT THE IQD WE WOULD HAVE EXCHANGED LONG AGO.

[..SweetQueen] THE DAY WILL COME WHEN ALL TRUTH IS REVEALED, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT WITH PROOF IN THE MEDIA.

[ready4riches] just one more thing i feel this country and media is run and controlled by a mafia type agenda. there i said it but just my opinion

[..SweetQueen] ready4riches THAT’S CORRECT WE ARE CONTROLLED BY THE PTB’S.

 [ready4riches] ..SweetQueen when this is exposed will be more exciting i think even than the rv

[..SweetQueen] ready4riches ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THE TRUTH SHALL BE REVEALED, STAY IN CONSTANT PRAYER FOR THOSE BEHIND THE SCENES WHOM ARE MAKING A PUSH TO GET US BACK ON THE RIGHT PATH.

[jtwest] ..SweetQueen in your opinion —- do you think we are as close to rv as some say , or are we looking at a later time ??

 [..SweetQueen] jtwest IT APPEARS THAT THE INFORMATION BEING EXPOSED IS HELPING US CROSS THE FINISH LINE.


PART 3 LETTERS OF PROOF FROM MICHAEL C. COTRELL…. POSTING ON BEHALF OF MARKZ…..1/9/2015

PLEASE DISTRIBUTE AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE!

I RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE FROM MY CLIENT, MICHAEL C. COTTRELL THIS MORNING; PLEASE BE SO ADVISED:

PLEASE SEND THIS OUT VERBATIM.

THIS DOCUMENT IS FOR PUBLIC RELEASE IN ITS ENTIRETY AND VERBATIM:

I, MICHAEL C. COTTRELL, B.A., M.S., DO HEREBY SWEAR AND AFFIRM THE FOLLOWING FACTS:

1.  THAT IN FURTHERANCE TO THE AFFIRMATIONS GIVEN ON DECEMBER 20, 2014 (#1) AND JANUARY 6, 2015 (#2) ARE BASED ON THE ENCLOSURES GIVEN AND THE FOLLOWING ENCLOSURES:

*       ENCL: # 1-1:  LETTER ISSUED TO THE HONORABLE PAUL H. O’NEILL, SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY DATED 25 MAY 2001, PAGE 1;
*
*       ENCL: # 1-2:  LETTER ISSUED TO THE HONORABLE PAUL H. O’NEILL, SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY DATED 25 MAY 2001, PAGE 2;

*       ENCL: # 1-3:  LETTER ISSUED TO THE HONORABLE PAUL H. O’NEILL, SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY DATED 25 MAY 2001, PAGE 3;

*       ENCL: # 2: STATE OF MARYLAND DOCUMENT (“ENCL: G-3″) IDENTIFYING THE MAILING ADDRESS OF DELMARVA TIMBER TRUST AS 1157 WEST 7TH ST., ERIE, PA, DATED 15 JANUARY 2002;

*       ENCL: #3: STATE OF MARYLAND DOCUMENT (EXHIBIT “EXHIBIT 15″) IDENTIFYING MICHAEL C. COTTRELL OF SAME ADDRESS CONFIRMING RE-ORGANIZATION OF DELMARVA TIMBER TRUST VIA ARTICLES OF AMENDMENT, DATED 28 MARCH 2001;

*       ENCL: # 4:  ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF SPECIFIC POWER OF ATTORNEY REGARDING CHERYL D. (MEDDLES) TORRES TO MICHAEL C. COTTRELL, SIGNED AND NOTARIZED 17 OCTOBER 2001;

*       ENCL: # 5-1: SIGNED AND NOTARIZED AFFIDAVIT BY MICHAEL C. COTTRELL DATED 29 DECEMBER 2008 ISSUED TO HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH II AND HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS THE DUKE OF EDINBURGH, PAGE 1;

*       ENCL: # 5-2: SIGNED AND NOTARIZED AFFIDAVIT BY MICHAEL C. COTTRELL DATED 29 DECEMBER 2008 ISSUED TO HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH II AND HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS THE DUKE OF EDINBURGH, PAGE 2;

*       ENCL: # 5-3: SIGNED AND NOTARIZED AFFIDAVIT BY MICHAEL C. COTTRELL DATED 29 DECEMBER 2008 ISSUED TO HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH II AND HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS THE DUKE OF EDINBURGH, PAGE 3;

*       ENCL: # 5-4: SIGNED AND NOTARIZED AFFIDAVIT BY MICHAEL C. COTTRELL DATED 29 DECEMBER 2008 ISSUED TO HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH II AND HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS THE DUKE OF EDINBURGH, PAGE 4;

*       ENCL: # 6:  SIGNED PAYORDER ISSUED BY AMERITRUST GROUPE, INC. TO MICHAEL C. COTTRELL SIGNED BY LEE EMIL WANTA DATED 11 JULY 2007;

*       ENCL: # 7: MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF AMERITRUST GROUPE, INC. IDENTIFYING MICHAEL C. COTTRELL AS SECRETARY/TREASURER OF SAID CORPORTION SIGNED BY LEE E. WANTA, DATED 28 DECEMBER 2004;

*       ENCL: # 8:  MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF AMERITRUST GROUPE, INC. IDENTIFYING MICHAEL C. COTTRELL AS EXECUTIVE VICE-PRESIDENT/TREASURER OF AMERITRUST GROUPE, INC. AND THE APPROVAL OF JONT VENTURES BETWEEN PENNSYLVANIA INVESTMENTS, INC. (“PII”) AND AMERITRUST GROUPE, INC. (“ATG”) SIGNED BY STEVEN D.GOODWIN, LEE E.WANTA, AND MICHAEL C. COTTRELL (DIRECTORS) DATED 16 DECEMBER 2006; PAGE 1 AND 2;

*       ENCL: # 9: PRIVATE JOINT VENTURE BETWEEN ATG AND PII, PER RESOLUTION(S) OF EACH COMPANY SIGNED BY MICHAEL C. COTTRELL AND LEE E. WANTA DATED 30 DECEMBER 2005;

*       ENCL: # 10-1: AMERITRUST GROUPE, INC. ANNOUNCEMENT AND CORPORATE APPROVAL OF “JOINT VENTURE PROGRAMME FUNDING” FOR THE AFOREMENTED JOINT VENTURE, SIGNED AND ISSUED BY LEE EMIL WANTA, DATED 2 JANUARY 2008, PAGE 1;

*       ENCL: # 10-2: AMERITRUST GROUPE, INC. ANNOUNCEMENT AND CORPORATE APPROVAL OF “JOINT VENTURE PROGRAMME FUNDING” FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED JOINT VENTURE, SIGNED AND ISSUED BY LEE EMIL WANTA, DATED 2 JANUARY 2008, PAGE 2;

*       ENCL: # 11:  AMERITRUST GROUPE, INC. NOTIFICATION OF DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS INDICATING THE HOLD OF ALL TRANSFERS FROM AMERITRUST GROUPE, INC. TO PENNSYLANIA INVESTMENTS, INC. REVISING ORIGINAL AGREEMENT DATED 26 DECEMBER 2007, SIGNED AND ISSUED BY LEE E. WANTA, CHAIRMAN/CEO/PRESIDENT DATED 12 JANUARY 2008.

2.  THAT AS STATED IN MY AFFIRMATION DATED 6 JANUARY, ITEM # 4, IDENTIFYING THE ROLES OF OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BUSH FAMILY AND OTHERS REGARDING THE THEFT AND ILLEGAL USE OF MY NAME, PASSPORT, AND CORPORATE AUTHORITIES TO COMMIT CRIMINAL FINANCIAL FRAUD AND THE COLLUSION BETWEEN SAID PARTIES IS FURTHER IDENTIFIED WITHIN THESE DOCUMENTS;

3.  THAT MY BONIFIDES WERE USED TO SECURE STANDING BEFORE THE U.S. TREASURY TO OBTAIN ACCESS TO SAID FUNDS, AND THAT ONLY BY THE ISSUANCE AND ACCEPTANCE OF A SPECIFIC POWER OF ATTORNEY BY CHERYL D. (MEDDLES) TORRES DID I OBTAIN SUCH STANDING.

4.  THAT THE 25 MAY 2001 LETTER TO THE HONORABLE PAUL H. O’NEILL FULLY IDENTIFIES THE STEPS TAKEN TO SECURE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ACCESS TO THE TRUST RES ON BEHALF OF THE TRUST AND MR. CHARLES OWEN MEDDLES’S CHILDREN, FURTHER IT RECOUNTS THE SOURCE OF FUNDS, VIA THE AUTHORIZED “DUAL-USE” EXPORTS (AUTHORITY GIVEN BY GEORGE H.W. BUSH, et al.,) AND THE AUTHORITY OF SAID FUNDS BY MR. MEDDLES AS TO PLACEMENT AND DISPOSITION;

5.  THAT THE AFOREMENTIONED LETTER FURTHER IDENTIFIES OTHER SUB-TRUSTS AND SUBSIDARIES CREATED BY DELMARVA TIMBER TRUST / MR. CHARLES OWEN MEDDLES FOR THE PURPOSE OF CARRYING OUT HIS PRESIDENTIAL GIVEN AUTHORITIES FOR SUCH “COVERT ENTERPRISE” OPERATIONS WITHIN AND WITHOUT CONUS (CONTINENTAL U.S.A.);

6. THAT THIS LETTER DEMONSTRATES THE STEPS TAKEN TO OBTAIN AN AMICABLE RESOLUTION OF THE ISSUE OF SATISFYING THE TRUST RES RESPONSIBILITES TO THE BENEFICIARIES OF MR. CHARLES OWEN MEDDLES;

7.  THAT IN RESPONSE TO THE ISSUANCE OF AFFIRMATION # 2, VARIOUS CHARGES HAVE BEEN ISSUED REGARDING MY RELATIONSHIP WITH AND FOR DELMARVA TIMBER TRUST VERSUS THE “SO-CALLED WANTA PLAN” — THAT THE INCLUSION OF THE 29 DECEMBER 2008 AFFIDAVIT AND ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS ARE WARRANTED TO ANSWER SAID CHARGES;

8.  THAT PAGE 1 OF SAID AFFIDAVIT CLEARLY STATES MY RELATIONSHIP WITH DELMARVA TIMBER TRUST CAUSED A “LEGAL CONCERN…AND DISCOMFORT BY PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH, et al., WITH REGARD TO PAYORDERS AND JOINT AGREEMENTS …. DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE / LEO (LEE) E. WANTA AND MICHAEL C. COTTRELL, B.A., M.S.”, AND THAT SAID DIFFERENCES HAVE
WARRANTED “MR. WILLIAM BONNEY’S PERSONAL GUARANTEE TO ABRITRATE” SAID DIFFERENCES —SAID DIFFERENCES HAVE NOT BEEN SETTLED AS OF THIS DATE;

9.  THAT PAGE 3 OF THE AFOREMENTIONED AFFIDAVIT (ITEM 6 a-d) IDENTIFY THE ORIGINS AND MEANING OF THE TERM “WANTA PLAN” WHICH SPECIFICALLY WAS DEVELOPED BY MICHAEL C. COTTRELL, B.A., M.S., AND PRESENTED TO MR. CHRISTOPER STORY, FRSA, AT A MEETING LOCATED IN ERIE, PA ON MARCH 15 AND 16, 2006, AND FURTHER CORROBORATED BY COL. DANA V. WILCOX, (Ret.);

10. THAT THE TERM “WANTA PLAN” WAS PENNED BY MR. CHRISTOPHER STORY BASED ON THE SIGNED ATG-PII JOINT VENTURE SIGNED BY MICHAEL C. COTTRELL AND LEE EMIL WANTA DATED 30 DECEMBER 2005.

11.  THAT THE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS –ENCLOSURES #7, #8, #9, AND #10 — CORROBORATE THE AFOREMENTIONED STATEMENTS.

12.  THAT THIS ISSUE HAD NOT BEEN INTENDED TO BE LEGALLY ADJUDICATED, BUT TO BE RESOLVED BY MR. WANTA STANDING BY HIS WRITTEN ISSUANCES REGARDING PAYMENT NOTICES WITH REGARD TO MICHAEL C. COTTRELL, B.A., M.S., MR. CHRISTOPHER STORY, FRSA, AND OTHERS.

13. THAT THIS AND OTHER DOCUMENTATION HAS BEEN NOTARIZED AND SUBMITTED TO HER MAJESTY AND HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS HAS ADDED CREDIBILITY TO THESE MATTERS — AND AS A RESULT OF THIS AND OTHER EGREGIOUS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, THE PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA AND THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION, ALONG WITH THE 200+ COUNTRIES THAT HAVE SIGNED THE “GOLD TREATY,” HAVE SPECIFIED THAT NO FUNDS WILL BE RELEASED (ACCESSED, e.g. ECONOMIC RECIEPT), VIA CURRENCY REVALUATION OR FINES & PENALTIES AND REDRESS OF THEFT, UNTIL THE INITIAL STEP OF THE TREATY AND THE MOSCOW AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN MET, i.e., THE DELIVERY OF THE CODES AND FUNDS TO MICHAEL C. COTTRELL, B.A., M.S., FOR THE FUNDING OF THE NEW TREASURY OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.”

I, MICHAEL C. COTTRELL, B.A., M.S., PRESIDENT OF PENNSYLVANIA INVESTMENTS, INC., LOCATED AT 1157 WEST 7TH ST., ERIE, PA 16502, DO HEREBY SWEAR AND AFFIRM THAT THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS TRUE AND FACTUAL.

S Michael C. Cottrell    Dated 9 January 2015

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